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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Nicotine is a drug. Like a lot of them, it has a range of effects. Some of them are pretty nice. You can't separate them from the giant mountain of bag effects, but still. Pretending that the only reason people ever smoked was addiction is dumb. It's why they kept smoking, but that's a whole nuther thing.

Man, a a good smoke when stressed helped. It didn't make the stress go away, but it it sure as hell sharpened focus and muted the sense of futility when a problem was overwhelming. I sure as hell won't ever smoke again, but I miss the hell out of that.

[-] MercurySunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago

I feel I can say with certainty that it helps me heavily with focus and energy. I've most primarily had issues quitting because of that. I have rather severe depression that I've not been willing to go to SSRI's to treat due to my interest in the arts. I possibly have ADD. I definitely have oral fixation (teehee). There's alot of neurochemical/psychological factors that can increase dependence on this drug just as any drug. It really is easier for some to quit than it is for others. If I had quit, I wouldn't have watched this video. I wouldn't be able to. You're tough! I hope you stay off it, yo. Nicotine's... pretty awful, as a drug. I don't personally see it as the worst, but it's definitely not great.

[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I don't like the video to be honest. The first few minutes actually make smoking seem great even to me and I'm strongly against smoking. So much so, I dislike you as a person if you ever smoke in my vacinity.

Just imagine some kid seeing only those first few minutes. Some bad actor could even just take those few minutes and upload them separately to other platforms.

[-] kernelle@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You wouldn't be able to start a video like that 10+ years ago, now though everyone knows smoking is bad for you. Even smokers know it, it's probably one of the most prevalent addictions. People wouldn't still be doing it after all this time and backlash if it didn't at least feel good.

That's the point they are making, smoking fucks up your natural balance by making you feel good, making you crave more and deteriorating your body in the process.

[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Everyone may know about the dangers already, but I feel like the video has another dangerous point besides the initial first minutes. It tells you that you can stop after a few years and more or less fully recover (at least in terms of life expectancy). That may be factually correct (and a great point for people who already smoke), but in combination with the beginning can lead to people thinking they can smoke for let's say 10 years, it's awesome after all, and then just stop - underestimating how difficult that is, even though the video does say that too.

[-] kernelle@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I've heard people say 'but my aunt smoked for 40 years and didn't have any health complications' in a fully unironic way. People will justify their smoking, but will also tell you they wish they'd never started because it is so difficult to quit so I agree with you point.

Now I've never used heroin, but that is the feeling people describe: euphoria, calmness and relief beyond anything you've experienced, to the point that you can't really think about anything else anymore. - I've read this many times and it makes me deeply uneasy. That sentence should make anyone revolt, but many people will be drawn in by this description just the same.

In much lesser ways ofcourse that is how people talk about smoking, but I think the point of the video is no substance should be altering your state of mind, but it's never to late to quit.

They made it edgy, risky play but I think it will be effective.

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