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Colorado Passes Its Third ‘Right To Repair’ Bill (www.techdirt.com)
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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Man, I live right next door in Utah, and we don't get any of the cool stuff. No legal weed (we have medical though), no right to repair, our "Idaho stop" law is worse, and no baseball team or football team. But at least we're getting a hockey team, so I guess that's cool.

Good on you Colorado, maybe someday my state will be cool. But instead, we pass stupid anti-porn, anti-social media, and anti-trans laws (but at least the people are rising up against the anti-trans law).

[-] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And weird liquor laws as well. Epic Brewing has a beer called Escape to Colorado because they could not make it in Utah. Also love that state it’s so pretty

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol. We at least increased our legal limit for beer sold in groceries, so now more beers can be sold here. So, progress?

But yeah, our liquor laws are quite stupid. But they make the state a bunch of money, so there's that...

[-] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Colorado actually went thought a similar thing about 7 years ago. Could only buy 3.2 beer at a grocery store. Every grocery store had a liquor store close to it so not a big deal at all

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Idk, it's kind of a big deal because ours close on holidays and Sundays, so you can't just pick up your favorite booze last-minute, you need to plan ahead.

I grew up in WA where grocery stories frequently had a liquor section (required ID) and wine was available on the regular shelves, so it's kind of weird here. I don't drink though, so it doesn't really affect me, but I still think it's stupid.

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I grew up in Florida, where you can buy hard liquor in some gas stations, and now I live in Minnesota, which is now the last state with 3.2 beer - but we got Sunday liquor sales a few years ago (possibly because everyone in the Twin Cities would just go to Wisconsin if they wanted beer on Sunday) and now legal weed. A lot of grocery stores have attached liquor stores and it's not a big deal, but it's still silly.

EDIT: we also passed a right to repair law last year. We're flat Colorado for cheap!

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

We have state-run liquor stores, and nobody else is allowed to sell anything harder than beer and hard lemonade (except restaurants and bars can sell prepared drinks). So stores with attached liquor stores just aren't a thing, and generally speaking, the liquor store is a few blocks away from the nearest grocery (one major exception is a liquor store near an Asian market).

That said, I hear the state-run liquor stores are pretty good, and they'll get pretty much any kind of liquor you ask for if they don't stock it.

I don't really understand the point though. Why not just open it up, tax it, and require checking id? Kids still drink here, and they get it the same way they do in areas with looser liquor laws: someone buys it for them.

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I used to live in a small Minnesota town and the only liquor store was run by the city. The prices were reasonable for how rural we were, and apparently some of the profits helped with city expenses. However, there was a grocery store 15 years ago or so that apparently wanted to open in the town and also have it's own liquor store, but the town denied their permits for the liquor store for officially unclear reasons, lol.

Getting someone else to buy it isn't actually the only way kids get it in states with really loose liquor laws - when I was a teen, I heard of a few places, mostly gas stations, that never carded. Eventually they got busted by the cops, but they sold a lot of booze to my friends before that happened. I don't think that's justification for exclusively state run liquor stores though. But I bet the people working at government run stores get better benefits and more stable hours than the ones working for private businesses...

[-] lung@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah! Let me repair all my semiautomatic dildos already!!

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

Cool, I feel like there are probably some loopholes but its a step in the right direction.

My only concern is that having different laws for each state may make it hard for companies to comply and it may even lead to "location locked" devices.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I doubt it, they'll probably just go for the least common denominator, which is generally what happens with California's laws (I see lots of "this may cause cancer in California" warnings on stuff, and I've never lived in Cali). Or the USB-C thing on iPhones due to EU laws and cookie banners due to EU and Cali laws.

That would only be a concern if Colorado is the only market since they're pretty small, but we're seeing traction in other states, so we're more likely to see companies just roll out most things to most states.

They will likely discriminate a bit if you don't live in one of the states (e.g. on warranties), but I doubt they'll have a state filter for parts and whatnot because that probably costs more than just rolling it out to everyone.

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My only concern is that having different laws for each state may make it hard for companies to comply and it may even lead to “location locked” devices.

Given how difficult it is to pass consumer protection laws without lots of loopholes, it's possible that the different laws in each region could work to our advantage: A corporation might sensibly decide to observe all the protections globally, rather than exploiting regional exceptions and loopholes, making the patchwork of laws act almost like a whole blanket. That wouldn't be legally enforced, of course, but it would be better than nothing.

In principle, all these state laws could also inform creation of a single, more comprehensive federal law. Here's hoping.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Gosh I wish that Denver were a bigger city. Colorado really is a lovely place.

[-] mlc894@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Denver seems pretty big… how much bigger were you wanting?

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

San Francisco, Chicago, NYC. Those are cities. Denver is a very large town.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If Denver were Manhattan, it would be Manhattan, not Denver.

[-] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

yes. yeeees.

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