It’s insane to me that they’re not charging him with treason in the documents case. There are ties to Russian intelligence as well as sale of confidential submarine plans.
It's strategic. Why set the bar any higher than it needs to be to put him away for life?
That’s a fair point, but only treason would exempt him from holding office again.
Put him behind bars, THEN charge him for treason. Make him show up to court in handcuffs and an orange jumper, to match his face.
Dude is gonna look like Palpatine when he can't get bronzer anymore.
To set an example for the next treasonous, racist piece of shit that the GOP nominates.
And maybe as a warning for Clarence Thomas and company.
And maybe to pave the way for charging Kushner and the rest of Trump's nepotistic administration.
See, there are lots of reasons to throw the book at Trump.
But a disturbing amount of Lemmy is ready and willing to risk making him President because of one issue that Trump would also do nothing to fix.
*Because of one issue that Trump explicitly said he would do much much worse with
I'll never fucking understand it. They claim to care, but he will be substantially worse, and also make their lives directly worse on top of it.
I get it. Nobody wants to actively vote for a guy supporting genocide. But they need to grow up and realize that if they can't make a good choice, they need to make the better choice, no matter how much it sucks that we're at this point.
One supports it (probably because he can't please everyone)
The other would gleefully assist in the genocide
I think Biden would please a lot more people if he just didn't pick a side. Nobody I talk to, no matter where on the political spectrum they land, likes him supporting Israel.
Sad how shortsighted we as a nation have become
Nailed it.
I'm not continuing to participate in this failed system brah!
Seems to be the best argument they can come up with... As if 4% voting third party would make a difference except to help elect a full on fascist
You guys should really think about changing your voting system.
Our voting uses something called a Single Transferable Vote. You can rank candidates in order of preference - last place gets eliminated and any votes they got are instead transferred to each voters' next preference. Repeat until there's only one left.
It cuts out most of the stupid games and you get to see people's positions more honestly.
In this case it'd let people vote for an anti genocide candidate and still indicate that they'd prefer Biden over Trump.
You guys should really think about changing your voting system.
Lmao -- ooooohhhh why didn't we think of that!
Just snap our fingers and change the system!
I was about to say "Holy shit, that's impressive. I need a source for that" and you got one ready. Good job, OP!
If anyone thinks that the CIA and deep state is still secretly controlling the United States, picking the leaders, influencing media to present only the narrative that they want to see presented... well, now you got your answer. They're not. If they were, every single TV news show every single night would be running stories about this kind of thing, and good things Biden has done, and associates of Trump who need to be in prison who aren't yet.
The irony is that some version of that influence and control campaign actually is happening now, on behalf of other countries, on social media. Their propaganda is getting presented front and center and getting tons of traction, and the US is in the unusual position of playing catch up on the influencing-mass-opinion game.
I feel there's an element in the CIA that's totally OK with Trump being in power, because it means they get everything green-lit (or Trump simply handwaves them gaining semi-autonomy again, like the bad old days). Remember, the years where they could simply launch a completely unauthorized coup in a foreign country are still within living memory, and well within institutional memory, and I'm sure there's enough spooks that absolutely want that sort of power back.
I think it's more like the CIA is just running a completely different game. They wouldn't dare want to bring any attention to themselves. The last thing they want is national scrutiny, even if it begins with the public on their side all it does is open the door for more probes and questions about where their money goes and what they've been doing.
Maga: OK, but look what Biden did!!
What did he do?
Maga: OMG how can you not know sheeple?
Ok, but what did he do? Did he leak classified information? Did he try to overthrow our government?
Maga:...
he's old!!!
i think beyond possibly getting paid for it, trump also wanted to pull a kissinger except with russia this time.
also the fact he isnt already in jail gives me strong "not a real democracy" vibes from the US.
He's checks notes creating jobs!
Creating job openings***
And the so called patriots are cheering him on. What a world we live in.
Why then wouldn't the CIA just whack Trump like they did Kennedy?
They arent nearly as fucken nuts as they once were, that was the same era where they were dosing eachother with LSD.
I mean I can imagine him doing that, but wyere source?
The official version of the conversation between trump and Putin doesn't include any mention of the spy list or anything sus.
Without looking into that because it doesn't really solve the issue, there are people who claim the primary source for what was said, would be a daily caller journalist. If that claim is true and the implications are up to you to figure out, as it doesn't really change anyway.
The request seems to be real while he didn't technically asked for spies. Spies aren't usually on the payroll as a spy either.
Trump himself didn't had to provide putin with the list directly anyway as marolago isn't fort Knox.
In short, a shit Tonne of what ifs and maybe, where a trump is an idiot that thought "Putin wants list of spies? I want list of spies" and stored it in a hotel, would be enough.
Fredo Corleone would have figured out that, as President, he was in a much stronger position and could extort billions from Putin.
Any Scooby-Doo villain would have figured it out.
James from Team Rocket would have figured it out.
Why? Cash money! The Orange Turd and Traitor is a fucking Russian FSB agent. When he was yapping about his trade war with the EU, the German police raided the Deutsche Bank HQ in Frankfurt looking for documents tracing Russian money flowing through Cyprus. Guess who received a loan from Deutsche Bank? The Orange Turd and Traitor. I'm certain Chancellor Merkel called Don, told him STFU about a trade war with the EU or the information gets released.
Fuck Trump and fuck the CIA. The world would be better off if both completely stopped existing.
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