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[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

"Buying meat is unethical because of how the animals are treated" ~ sent from my iPhone made by child slave labor

I'm not saying veganism is bad. What I am saying is that people who think veganism is a moral high ground are wrong. I also think that veganism is a luxury to be even able to follow.

Edit after downvotes into the negative and shitty asshole responses:
Here comes the self-righteous assholes who don't want to have a discussion and instead throw around blame and shame at me. Congrats. Y'all are the reason people hate vegans which hurts your cause by pushing people away from reducing reliance on meat. Every downvote is proof that self-righteous vegans are assholes.

[-] MilitantVegan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The devil is in the details, but in most cases it's eating animal products that's the luxury.

https://www.veganeasy.org/discover/news/oxford-university-researchers-finds-vegan-diets-are-cheaper/

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[-] Sniatch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Well in germany it's really easy to be vegan. Lots of affordable options

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[-] chetradley@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

You can be opposed to unethical treatment of animals and child slave labor. If someone tells me they are against slave labor, my response isn't ""buying products made by slaves is unethical" ~said by someone who eats factory farmed meat". It doesn't have to be one or the other.

I don't think people go vegan because they want a moral high ground, at least I know I didn't. People do it because they genuinely believe it's the right choice to make. And yes, having that choice is a luxury not afforded to everyone, but vegans are no more entitled than the people around them who also have the luxury of being able to choose not to support animal agriculture, but do so anyway.

You say people don't want to have a discussion while at the same time calling people who might actually engage in a discussion "self-righteous assholes". This leads me to believe you may not actually be looking for a good faith conversation.

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[-] yoyolll@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Sorry, how is it a luxury? Vegetables, grains, and legumes are far cheaper and healthier sources of calories and nutrition than meat, despite the government subsidies. This perception that you should eat McDonalds and rotisserie chicken every day if you don’t have money to buy groceries is so strange to me.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Hell, vegans are just religious zealots without a deity.

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