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[-] TheCoolerMia 65 points 8 months ago

I've been on peaceful mode the entire time :3

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 35 points 8 months ago

based. keep inventory also

[-] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Gotta join an RP PVP server, so everyone's fighting but in a fun way

[-] Boggy@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Shut up, you stole my lunch money when we were kids! …wait not here?

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago

✌🏻☮️

[-] Unlix86 3 points 8 months ago

Woof woof c:

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago

Why would I not want to see downvotes? I comment a ton and rarely get significant downvotes. It's not like avoid controversial topics or speaking my mind. Wtf are people posting that they need to hide them?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

harrasment and brigading unfortunately exist, especially against minorities. for plenty of people mental health/self care is a totally valid reason to not want to see scores in either direction.

[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Lemmy is small enough that “brigading” doesn’t feel entirely appropriate. Maybe “platooning?”

In any case, we know from other sites that downvotes increase the probability of getting more downvotes, and nasty comments increase the probability of getting more nasty comments. The same goes for upvotes and positive comments. It’s just social dynamics. Some subs on reddit existed almost exclusively to call out other subs, but I think that Lemmy’s user base is small and spread out enough that it’s not a major contributing factor in voting.

I think it’s mostly just people scrolling along, running across a hot take, and interpreting it according to the voting.

In any case, I would suspect that people would be more impacted by hurtful comments than downvotes.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 14 points 8 months ago

nope. brigading happens on lemmy, and is visible in the modlogs with decent frequency. same goes for vote manipulation. i take no pleasure from this fact; that’s just the way it is.

obviously comments have more weight than votes in general. that doesn’t give you an excuse to be judgmental of how people interact with the site, just be careful.

also it’s not just downvotes that can be demoralizing. in early months of the reddit migration i witnessed blatantly and violently homophobic shit get upvoted sky high before mods stepped in. made me really feel gross and uncomfortable about the platform altogether.

generally, a tip, don’t lay question to other peoples’ expression of lived experience without evidence—especially when it doesn’t affect you at all.

[-] princessnorah 8 points 8 months ago

Trans people on reddit would often get downvoted to oblivion for seemingly no reason. It happened to me on occasion, with comments that were otherwise benign, non-controversial and at least tangentially on-topic. Like fair enough if they stayed at 1 but these would be at -5 or lower. And always on posts in default/major subreddits too. This stuff was done systematically to silence trans users by having their comments hidden from low vote total. Because actually posting hateful comments would just get reported and removed in those large spaces, and this goes undetected.

Now imagine a trans Instance like Blahaj, dealing with the potential of a new instance showing up just to downvote members, and that happening, over and over. No comments, just downvotes. That's why Blahaj has them disabled.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I guess I've just been lucky and sheltered while on Lemmy. I see bigotry here and there, but because I hang out in queer spaces, I don't see overwhelming bigotry get much traction. The worst I usually see are tankie or liberal assholes, probably because of mods not tolerating anything farther right than that for a second.

Another factor might be that I'll throw hands(through language of course) against trolls. I'm not sure if I have thick skin in the sense that I don't feel the offense, but I do have armor inside and out.

It's hard to get under my skin because they'd need to somehow understand how to be bigoted against my relevant identity better than I do. I was obsessed with following hate groups and fascists for years, learning how that think and why they think that way. I understand bigotry better than they do, and enjoy finding the most powerful bigotry so I can beat it in the future.

I know most people can't do that, so I go on the offensive whenever I see it not directed at me. Trolls probably go for people that won't tear their attacks apart like I do, so they either don't start harassing me or give up before it gets out of hand. I was always vulnerable growing up, so I guess I invested into becoming capable of fighting back against harassment and bullies, at least through language.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 8 months ago

valid! respect for admitting your experience might be different from others’ 👍

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I'm an American and won't be voting for Biden. That doesn't go over so well here. Good thing I don't care about down votes. Back in my Reddit days I once got -3k on a single comment and I wasn't even trying to troll at that moment.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

That makes sense. Giving up and denying that you've given up is detestable.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah that's what we need, people like you that fearlessly mix outside your bubble. Good on ya. I won't deny that it's detestable that you want to vote for a neotode, but still.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

They're probably not voting at all, maybe not even on local races with candidates they might really like. It's just apathy being justified by doomers with no realistic plans to improve anything for anyone.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 8 months ago

That's just worse. Not voting is a realistic plan to dismantle choice, to prove that we want to not have choice. It's a vote for faschism. A clear wish to become a dictatorship, that's just rump but with extra steps and no guardrails

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

Why hang out on Lemmy.World if you're not a neolib or a bot?

So many better instances that I've blocked LW entirely

[-] EldritchFeminity 35 points 8 months ago

instance blocks downvotes

can neither see downvotes nor downvote posts

[-] princessnorah 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you’re on a different instance than 196 and you can see downvotes on a post, those are literally only from other accounts on your instance! When they get sent to Blahaj they get dropped from the database entirely, then when other instances ask for an updated tally, Blahaj just replies zero :D

Your local instance will treat it’s own downvote count as valid despite the 0 reply, hence only seeing local downvotes.

[-] LordAmplifier@pawb.social 7 points 8 months ago

That's actually really interesting, thank you for sharing :3

[-] princessnorah 4 points 8 months ago

Your welcome :3 i think one of the admins here put it in a comment a while back and it stuck with me

[-] Unlix86 2 points 8 months ago
[-] princessnorah 2 points 8 months ago
[-] Unlix86 2 points 8 months ago

Woof woof woof woof woof woof :D

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 points 8 months ago

Here, let me downvote your comment for you. Can you feel that?

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Love seeing upvotes and downvotes, like old, old reddit. Wish sync could do that, or I could figure out the settings for ir

[-] madeline 18 points 8 months ago

i would 100% use separate if i had downvotes

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 14 points 8 months ago

Didn't know these options existed. I do like seeing which posts are in the red, as it's a helpful clue which posts are troll spam.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 8 months ago

yeah it’s pretty neat. i was able to successfully sus out and report some bot voting manipulation by paying attention to the values.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sync forces me on option 2 🙄 but I still check the website sometimes.

Edit: posts do show upvote perçage at least.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

Which is which?

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