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[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 296 points 6 months ago

If it wasn't for politics then they shouldn't take government contracts

[-] db2@lemmy.world 213 points 6 months ago
[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Indeed ! This Would be much easier to take seriously if Sundar hadn’t meet with Sunak, Modi, Biden et al. In the first year or so since getting the job.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 132 points 6 months ago

Or fire people because of politics.

[-] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 6 months ago

I'm just hearing Google advocating for a strict ban on lobbyism.

I mean, otherwise it's discrimination, no?

[-] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 163 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The workplace, or at least career progression, is like 50% politics lol. Google is no different.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 55 points 6 months ago

In fact, I've heard Google is especially bad here. You only get ahead by shipping a product, and getting a project approved is largely politicking. It's one of the more political business environments around.

My company seems a lot better. We don't have aggressive ladder climbing like the big tech firms, we instead value consistency.

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You only get ahead by shipping a product, and getting a project approved is largely politicking

Yep - I had a friend who worked for three years at Google, none of the products he worked on ever shipped and eventually he gave up on ever receiving a good salary (bonuses/stock options/etc are supposed to be most of the pay, but you only get that by working on a successful product)

They have ten major campuses worldwide that focus on product development, but only one of those actually ships products regularly.

[-] Nighed@sffa.community 27 points 6 months ago

And working on stuff that never gets shipped/used is demoralising too. No product to be proud of making/maintaining etc.

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[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 126 points 6 months ago

I would argue that firing them seems like a pretty strong political statement.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago

Insightful 👍

[-] stringere@leminal.space 109 points 6 months ago

Oh good, so Google has stopped all political donations and canceled all government contracts so they can stay out politics?

No? Ok fuck you.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 81 points 6 months ago

Ok, so if I find out I work for Nazi contractor and object to that, it is politics?

[-] wagesj45@kbin.run 24 points 6 months ago

Yes. What about that do you think is non-political? Abhorrent politics are still politics.

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[-] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Discussing politics at the work place has been an HR violation for some time, but speaking against the company policy or its customers has always been a fireable ofense. I’m not sure why this surprises anyone.

Sure, google is an evil corporation and there’s lots of reasons to hate them, but why are we focusing on this specific thing which is common across all workplaces?

And yes, if you find out your employer is constructing concentration camps and you openly speak against that, you’re probably going to lose your job. Why is this even a question?

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago

It's just a Tuesday in the Capitalist Hellscape © of U.S.A.™

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[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Discussing politics at the work place has been an HR violation for some time, but speaking against the company policy or its customers has always been a fireable ofense. I’m not sure why this surprises anyone.

Looks like a navel-gazing USA thing. Here in Europe I cannot imagine that there's many companies who'd fire workers for protesting or tells them to shut up forever.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 22 points 6 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 76 points 6 months ago

"The workplace isn't for politics" is about social etiquette, not criticizing what your own company is taking part in you stupid fuck.

[-] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 75 points 6 months ago

Sounds to me like these tech workers could really use a good union to protect them.....

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 46 points 6 months ago

Why do you need to bring politics into it?

/s

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Google isnt the place for your politics. It is only a place for my politics. So get in line with my thinking or get the fuck out!" - Googles Chief Cunt.

[-] theluddite@lemmy.ml 61 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"The workplace isn't for politics" says company that exerts coercive political power to expel its (ex-)workers for disagreeing.

[-] abucci@buc.ci 16 points 6 months ago

@theluddite@lemmy.ml @jeffw@lemmy.world Since most people spend most of their best hours at the workplace, what this person is really saying is that there shouldn't be any politics at all. I.e., this is a confession: "I am an authoritarian".

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[-] qprimed@lemmy.ml 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

google the company needs to be garroted with their old "don't be evil" line.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Don’t ~~be evil~~ tell me your opinions

Don’t ask don’t tell in corporate form!

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

Well maybe Google shouldn’t take political contracts.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago

The little-known genocide assistance exception to “don’t be evil.” You have to read the fine print these days.

[-] spookex@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

They dropped that line some time ago

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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 44 points 6 months ago

Again the excuse of 'no politics'

YOU CAN'T AVOID POLITICS

Accepting contracts from Israel is just as political as denying contracts from Israel. You just stated your political stance by accepting. Why do people think it's a free copout?

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 35 points 6 months ago

"Workplace is not for politics" is just doublespeak for "We don't value ethics here"

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[-] SkyeStarfall 13 points 6 months ago

"Politics is everything I disagree with"

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Weird how all the right wingers that constantly yell about how silencing nazis is censorship are suddenly very quiet when a ceo comes out and explicitly says you will be fired for your speech.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 22 points 6 months ago

It is on course for conservatives. It's all about their freedom of speech not anyone else's freedom of speech.

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[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 months ago

Everything is politics, especially the mega corpos that lobbies the governments of the world.

The only problem is that many people can't afford to be fired because of them.

[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

It's about making money for executives and shitting on the employees that do the actual work.

[-] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 6 months ago

I'm honestly somewhat surprised that these firings haven't triggered a mass walkout or something at Google offices yet. They're being very cavalier with employees they spend so much effort (at least historically) on keeping in the office to work "free" hours.

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[-] GarlicToast@programming.dev 25 points 6 months ago

I don't get the comment here, they didn't 'express their opinion' about Israel. They behaved like a bunch of lunatics within Google's offices. If you want to protest Google's actions send a signed letter of resignation stating the reason, send it to the press and form a union of techies that won't work for companies that work with Israel recursively.

On a side note, I like how none of them mind building mass surveillance tools, pushing ads, Google-China relations, etc... But Israel's genocide is trending, so they jump on that. What a bunch of shallow fucks.

[-] gaael@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

I don't get the comment here, they didn't 'express their opinion' about Israel. They behaved like a bunch of lunatics within Google's offices.

Yes, they did express their opinion on the ongoing genocide. They did that in a fashion that disturbed the workplace - which some comments seem to deem holy ground that should never be disturbed by anything - but they did express their opinion.

If you want to protest Google's actions send a signed letter of resignation stating the reason, send it to the press and form a union of techies that won't work for companies that work with Israel recursively.

Iirc they tried some regular stuff before resorting to this method. Also, it's always funny how when people try to change things, they never seem to do it the right way.

On a side note, I like how none of them mind building mass surveillance tools, pushing ads, Google-China relations, etc... But Israel's genocide is trending, so they jump on that. What a bunch of shallow fucks.

Well congrats on being less of a hyprocrite than the rest of us.
The world is shit, nothing goes in the right direction, and some of us are more sensitive to some issues than others.
I mean I despise alphabet and their business model, but I also understand than people are less horrified by their work being used to serve ads than it being used in a genocide. And again, I hate that ads exist.

Protestation and strike are supposed to inconvenience the higher ups, please stop advising to use methods that don't disturb anything.

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[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 months ago

I see the alt-right is out of school early today!

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[-] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 22 points 6 months ago

My god they really hit the home run with a brand new excuse just to fire a few more people huh?

[-] heysoundude@derpzilla.net 19 points 6 months ago

“Officially, of course, I have no opinion.”

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Riiight... the fact that corporations are petty dictatorships isn't political at all.

Right.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 14 points 6 months ago

Massive respect to the workers who sacrificed their jobs to highlight Google's scummy behaviour.

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