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[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

This sure sounds like an amazing breakthrough, RNA based vaccine that works on "all strains" of a virus and can be administered with a nasal spray...

Would be pretty amazing to not have to go get a shot annually, just a quick nose spray once and be done.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 93 points 1 year ago

Most promises in medical news, much like energy news, never pan out.

Here's to hoping though.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

In medicine, finding out what doesn't work is nearly as valuable as finding what does. Because finding out why it doesn't work can lead to you the solution and perhaps even solutions for things you weren't even looking for.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

Yet another reason for journals to have a negative results publication.

[-] FilterItOut@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 year ago

finding out what doesn’t work is nearly as valuable as finding what does

Sometimes, sure. Most of the time, though, it's more akin to: "Worked on isolated cells in vitro, but doesn't approach target cells in vivo due to ECM."

[-] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Ya. Until the kooks decide Bill Gates is resting to install AI in our heads through our noses. …or some such bullshit.

[-] Naboo_calls_for_aid@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

"yah, mom, look I heard right here on Lemmy, Bill Gates is making a nose spray to turn us into robots"

[-] ax_xa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Can I meet some?

[-] akakunai@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Gay frog robots.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Apparently people can’t read and for some reason decided that you’re anti vax.

[-] Raxiel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I used windows once, and if you checked inside my head you'd find a neural network.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 31 points 1 year ago

It will be awesome if this can make it to human trials and be successful. Lots of immunocompromised people could benefit from this.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Website says

"Scientists at UC Riverside have demonstrated a new, RNA-based vaccine strategy that is effective against any strain of a virus and can be used safely even by babies or the immunocompromised. "

Paper says

"Live-attenuated virus vaccine defective in RNAi suppression induces rapid protection in neonatal and adult mice lacking mature B and T cells"

I love how they probably used chatgpt to summarize the article for their website. And jumping from here to saying "this vaccine is effective against everything ever" seems a bit! over reaching. Even universal vaccines within a given subtype are finicky. There seems to be a trade off between universality (of recognition) and of effectiveness. Nevertheless this seems like a different mechanism than previous RNA/protein vaccines in that it seems to work by inducing innate immunity. Even though they say that mice remain immune 90d post vaccination, that is another area where mice and men can be substantially different, so I think we are still at the wait and see stage unfortunately.

And this joke of a sentence here

"With one vaccine injection, they found the mice were protected from a lethal dose of the unmodified virus for at least 90 days. Note that some studies show nine mouse days are roughly equivalent to one human year. "

Wohooo we are immune for 10 years!!!

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Get fucked viruses!

[-] SteefLem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't seem to find the paper, either. Hmmm... where 'tis? I emailed the article author, Jules Bernstein, to request a link fix. fingers crossed.

[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Link works for me maybe they fixed it?

If you want to search for it yourself it's "Live-attenuated virus vaccine defective in RNAi suppression induces rapid protection in neonatal and adult mice lacking mature B and T cells" by Gang Chen, Qingxia Han, Wan-Xiang Li, and Shou-Wei Ding

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Today it worked fine. Could be on my end. VPN, script blockers, etc. shrug

And WOW this looks like a significant development.

[-] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Ya, like nature works that way...

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Well it doesn't. People made it. With science.

[-] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not anti vac. But, this article is pretty smug while still using the word "should". Hubris is thinking that we've beat nature.

I'm absolutely thrilled if this actually gets us to the next level of protecting people. But I'm beating down by these "savior" articles.

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