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The service offers the ability to purchase credits through cryptocurrencies, as well as offers the data for AI training purposes.

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[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 173 points 7 months ago

Excited to see Discord do absolutely nothing about this despite it being an egregious breach of their TOS.

[-] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 95 points 7 months ago

Discord‘s TOS only really applies when they feel like it.

[-] starman@programming.dev 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When someone uses 3rd party client or creates a server for Nintendo emulator

[-] dopeshark@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Just like twitch

[-] Tanoh@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

...and when they don't pay Discord under the table. Discord wouldn't be unique if this was the case either.

[-] chameleon@kbin.social 18 points 7 months ago

I think they'll give it a genuine shot. These stalking services pop up like weeds and every time it gets some media attention they end up with significant problems not much later. dis.cool was the last well-known entry but there's been more.

[-] rar@discuss.online 11 points 7 months ago

Can't wait for it to die and wither out. But I know they will retain a big pool of users on hostage like reddit or fb for a while.

[-] dopeshark@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Is matrix.org a viable alternative as of now or the near future?

[-] ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

personally I think revolt is a better alternative.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

If it has the same issues Lemmy does, probably not. People don't want to build an account on a server only to find out, three months later, it's run by tankies, or anti-piracy watchdogs, or any other number of unsavory things.

[-] OmgItBurns@discuss.online 3 points 7 months ago

Matrix is great, if only I could convince my friends to use it.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I am still on it because of a small circle of friends.

[-] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 67 points 7 months ago

From the article, the data collection hinges on a bot going into a public server then scraping the history. Still a problem that Discord should act on, but it looks like there is no need to worry about private servers.

[-] themachine@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

Does anyone know what kind of naming pattern or bot identification methods we could use? I belong to a small public server that’s there to serve a public need.

[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You could probably have a verification system thing that I've seen some public servers have where you have to complete some action before getting access to the actual channels.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

"private" = small 'servers' that aren't in the public index (I think you have to have like 500 people to be eligible or something), or....?

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 34 points 7 months ago

You literally just set the server to private, which is invite-only and has slightly less features. Any public/community server is in the public index.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I've ran a discord server for 8 years and I have 0 recollection of this setting. Where is it?

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hmm, it seems like the option is actually the reverse: for toggling whether it's a community server. So to make it private you simply click on the button to disable community features.

You also used to be able to only disable discovery but that was bundled into community features.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Ah, thanks! My server is a community server but isn't eligible for discovery, so... I guess we are safe?

[-] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Are you running a server which has a "community server" badge on it or using disboard?

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago

This.. this is nothing. Oh no, my messages on public servers are being scraped! Good thing I haven't said anything in a public server I didn't fully intend on being there forever.

The Discord haters will feast on anything. Granted, this should still be shutdown as a TOS violation but acting like this is a profound intrusion on privacy? Get ahold of yourselves. This is no different from Tweets being scraped or Facebook wall posts. Don't add the bot to servers you don't want it on and it's a nonissue.

[-] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 26 points 7 months ago

If they could somehow make this data available to search engines. Maybe we can start being able to google random problems and actually find solutions again.

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago

What kind of foolish optimist are you? Search engines are to make profit, not help you find that obscure answer to your urgent question

[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Search engines would have to function but yeah that would be nice.

[-] eyeon@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

the content being scraped is from users, they do not control what bots are added to servers.

It's much more like the Cambridge Analytics scandal in that users posted content that was shared with friends but not explicitly shared publicly, but those friends then granted a third party access to all of the data.

[-] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 6 points 7 months ago

This is assuming the bots are allowed (or, at least not prevented in coming) in by the server admin and the bot is not obfuscated some how. If the bots are taking advantage of an expolit, or not being up front, then we have trouble.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

it redirects to a video of the infamous Jonah Jameson’s “Are you serious?” scene from Spider-Man

No, it hosts the video. DMCA!!1!!1!!!

Edit: Italicized "hosts". Wish we could use the tag.

[-] Shape4985@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Deleted discord recently because of the ads. Glad I did as iv been looking for reason to delete it for a while.

[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Another reason not to use Discord.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 7 months ago

You should learn about how message federation works on Lemmy

[-] Asudox@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Time to switch to alternative open source ones: Revolt, Matrix, Spacebar...

Revolt looks and functions the most like Discord.

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