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I have a hard time accepting this as a crime. What if the illustration hand-drawn, or clothed but still sexual in character? Is caricature illegal, by this standard?
There’s a big difference between a deep fake and a caricature.
Yeah, but only one of degree.
How so?
It's making an image of someone that portrays them in an unrealistic and offensive context.
So if I use AI to make pornography of 50 men gang banging you, you will consider that to be on the same level as going to a carnival and getting a characture done?
Huh, you must have replied somewhat late to this - I'm sure I checked back here for any replies before I returned to my main instance for good.
Actually, yes. If you sent it to me, that would be sexual harassment (just like if you sent me an unsolicited text description of what you want to do to me), but I don't care what you do in private.
So if I send it to people who aren't you... it's okay?
Also yes.
The difference is so big, it easily becomes qualitative.
Ooohh, can't wait to see us waste billions of dollars deliberating what is acceptable just like with copyright law.
This is another law that only exists to protect rich people. Poor people can't afford a lawyer and don't have time to show up in court.
You seriously can't see why deep fakes are a serious problem to everyone?
This law won't protect just rich.
Imagine the chaos as some idiot teen creates a deep fake of some other teen in a compromising position.
Go talk to an attorney and see what they have to say about it.
Is caricature illegal, by this standard?
No.
The official government announcement is linked in the article btw.
I wonder what happens when it just accidentally looks like someone but was intended to be a fictional person. Also, how much can you base it on a real person before it's considered a deep fake of that person? Would race-swapping be enough to make it a "new" person so it's not illegal anymore? My intuition is that just eye colour or something wouldn't be enough, but it's a sliding scale where the line must be drawn somewhere even if it's a fuzzy line.
What about an AI generated mashup of two people like those "what the child would look like" pictures back in the day. Does that violate both people or neither?
What about depicting a person older than they are now? That's technically not somebody that exists, but might in the future.
What if you use AI but make it look like it's hand-drawn or a cartoon?
What if you use AI to create sexual voice clips of a real person but use images that don't look like them or no image at all?
There are just so many possibilities and questions that I feel it might be impossible to legislate in a way that isn't always 10 steps behind or has a million unforeseen consequences.
There's already laws against using someone's likeness for commercial purposes without their consent, I'm guessing this will require the same fuzzy cutoff and basically just be up to the jury to decide or the judge to dismiss.
Well, let's find out. Please give me 20 sample photos of you, 30 minutes of audio and 10 of video.
I'm going to have you get gangbanged by 100 German men and upload it to xvideos.
Now, that is probably something you deserve to consent to, isn't it?
This is why we should be making laws around likeness rights. If you damage somebody by publicly using their name to spread falsehoods, that's defamation or libel. But, if you produce an image or video of their likeness instead of using their name, there's no legal recourse. Makes no sense this day in age
Who decides how similar somebody is "allowed" to look to another? There are people who bear an uncanny resemblance to others. And what of identical twins? Can one sue the other if they do porn?
The courts, probably. That's what they are for.
"Without consent." I'm very curious who would consent to having deepfake porn made of themselves.
I can imagine a non-zero amount of people would consent to a deep-fake porn video of themselves having sex with some generic hot woman, just as one example.
That makes sense, I hadn't thought of that sort of deepfake.
Could be very lucrative if you are already in porn and want to make some money from your likeness. This guy's gonna pay me $500 to make a video and I don't even have to do anything?
Could also be very good for porn stars who have "aged out" but can still make videos using their younger bodies as weird as that may be.
A user shared a story a while back about his wife and her sister giving photos and agreeing to it. Lots of kinky people out there.
So what if the deep fake consent?
Government grasping at straws. More news at 8.
Seems like a waste of resources that could better be spent on other things.
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