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Honestly I think it's probably too soon for the kind of significant performance increase Valve is wanting for the Steam Deck 2. Not to mention that the OLED deck just came out. That said, even if these chips don't make it to a Deck 2 I'm sure we'll see them in competing devices.

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[-] warm@kbin.earth 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It depends on efficiency, it's all good and well having more performance, but if the battery life is only 2 hours it's useless. I imagine Valve will wait a couple years yet.

[-] cron@feddit.de 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just guessing, I really don't expect a Steam Deck release this year. But 2025 seems quite likely to me.

Edit: Maybe the next Steam Deck will be based on Zen 6? It is expected roughly two years after the Steam Deck OLED release.

The Zen6 architecture might adopt an advanced manufacturing process, potentially combining 3nm and 2nm technologies, to further enhance performance and efficiency. The expected launch of the Zen6 "Medusa" CPUs is projected for the 2025-2026 period, showcasing AMD's strategic planning for future developments. - Source

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago

It's too soon for Valve, but I'm sure AMD would love to sell chips to everyone, including those not Valve.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

The relevant metric is how much faster it is at the same power draw. The Z1 Extreme/7840U/8840U are faster compared to the Deck's APU, but at equal power limits there isn't too much in it.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the Z1 chips mostly out perform the deck by throwing more power at the chip, which isn't great for a handheld with limited battery capacity.

[-] saintshenanigans@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

also whether or not all the power on that chip is able to be used or if its just going to thermal throttle at 50% load

[-] ElectroLisa 8 points 2 years ago

...or for the Deckard

[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It all depends on how well the performance scales at very low power like 10W for example.

[-] solberg 6 points 2 years ago

I kind of wonder if they would switch to ARM for the next one

[-] ugurcan@mastodon.gamedev.place 16 points 2 years ago

@solberg @Fubarberry It already requires a colossal effort to run Windows games on Linux. Adding ARM to the equation would only be a solution looking for a problem.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

We'll get there eventually, but I think x86 to arm support is still too far out.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Maybe they’ll release that one in Australia.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yall can hope! Do people import ones from Asia?

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Usually from third party eBay and Amazon sellers. There's a price premium, but not bad if you're willing to wait for a sale.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I wonder if Valve will try and stick the same cadence of mainstream consoles to try and piggyback off that industry recognition

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

I think with games getting more demanding, they will have to release a more powerful Deck in the next 2-4 years, probably closer to 2.

[-] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The deck is already too weak to play most modern games. You can't play Madden 24 with a stable 30 FPS and sports games are perfect for handheld gaming devices.

The ROG ALLY seems to want to release new models every year or so to keep up and if the steam deck doesn't do the same I fear their sales will plummet until a new model comes out.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think that Rog Ally is very successful though. Do you have some sales numbers? And releasing a new model every year will add complexity as they will need to support different hardware platforms, etc.

I also agree that it would have been great if the Deck had more oomph, but they do compensate with great software support and real dedication on their side.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The Deck is basically a Series S with when you factor in the much lower resolution.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

IDK. Looks like it’d take up quite a lot of space in there. They still need a battery and all other crap.

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