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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago

Finland is wrong.

"Often unenforced"

Who the fuck made this inforgraphic?

Finnish cops are obsessive over fighting cannabis, and in practice even having a single joint on you will lead to a criminal record, and not for just "personal use" or "possession" but the same crime you'd be charged with if you grow 27 plants at home.

And yes, I've personal experience on both, as well as several dozens of other examples, documented and otherwise.

Finnish drug laws are just as archaic as others, and the cops attitude and understanding is way worse than in most European countries.

It's ridiculous.

So yeah, Finland is definitely wrong, fucking hell.

[-] garfaagel@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 years ago

Who the fuck made this inforgraphic?

It's from Wikipedia. Admittedly, I didn't do much fact-checking and just trusted it. But of course you can always contribute by improving the map.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

It's like the "happiest country on Earth" bullshit.

Yes, Wikipedia is right that technically there is a way for police to not enforce the law when it comes to personal amounts of cannabis, but in practice that never happens, and the cops make even the smallest bit of weed be a "proper" drug crime. Medical use is technically legal, yeah, but there's like at most a dozen people in the country, and most doctors would never ever even consider cannabis to be medicine, and even tiny use admitted to a doctor might lead to a loooot of discriminatory bullshit.

Basically the education material for the police and the doctors seems to have been "reefer madness".

Just google "police prevented filming" in Finnish, "poliisi esti kuvaaamisen", and see how many articles come up where you're not allowed to even film protests or even when the police conduct a search at your home, you're not allowed to film that, according to the police.

I had to set them straight about that.

https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000009654524.html

That's an article from when the police illegally searched my apartment and prevented me from filming them by grabbing my phone away from me. The supreme court decided they were wrong. But for 90% of the things they did wrong that day, the grabbing of my phone was the only thing I got them on, because I still had the clip of them actually grabbing the phone.

Finnish cops are undereducated authoritarians. Good in comparison to other countries police in a lot of things, but still not something to be desired when it comes to cannabis and matters of personal rights.

So even though I know the map is wrong, Wikipedia wouldn't allow me to change it because on paper there's a reference to a possibility of not being charged for personal use, even though that never gets utilised in practice.

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[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wow. The map doesn't even match their own table underneath it (check out the UK, which is yellow in the table and dark red in the map).

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago

Is Antarctica really "unknown"? The closest there is to antarctic law would be international treaties and they are mostly about nuclear weapons and oil drilling.

I feel like if you are willing to live in a frozen hellscape you should be able to smoke whatever you want

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 13 points 2 years ago

Since there isn't a legal structure it falls in the default 'unlnown' category because legality doesn't apply.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

From what I've heard in the past the laws scientists follow are enforced administratively by their country. So while scientists for X country could smoke, an American scientist would be sent home for it. (But not charged with a crime)

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Welcome to Germany in blue since yesterday! Interestingly buying and selling it is still not allowed. You can grow up to three plants for own use

I would expect or at least hope Denmark will follow suit.

[-] hikaru755@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

buying and selling it is still not allowed.

That's somewhat misleading. It is allowed in the form of non-profit clubs ~~selling~~ giving to members who pay a membership fee for personal use. It's just commercial sale that's banned.

Edit to correct the above statement and to add that the clubs are only gonna be legal in July.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

Not quite accurate. Selling is still illegal, even for the clubs. You pay a monthly fee to the club and the club is giving you a monthly allowance of up to 50g.

Yes, this is selling with extra steps but it circumvents EU stuff about not being allowed to commercialise cannabis.

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[-] criticon@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago

Mexico is wrong. Supreme Court approved to make it legal in 2021 but no laws have been written (and it doesn't work like in the US were the SCOTUS makes it legal automatically)

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago

The UK should probably be pink not red.

The police actually wanted to legalize it but the government refused to. They even fired their advisor when he said that cannabis isn't really that bad and probably shouldn't be an illegal substance. The UK government is awful and corrupt as hell.

So it's still illegal but the police very rarely actually do anything about possession. They may take it off you but it's not going to result in any legal action.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Virginia is wrong. It is not illegal to have on you, but there is no way set up to sell recreationally legally. The medical market got its claws in and is holding on tight.

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[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

tfw México has more freedom than tejas

[-] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

Fucking Canberra has it but not the rest of us

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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

the US is not legal in any sense in any state just ask Flip Flop Joe

here we prop up corporate cannabis and continue to erode consumer protections like everything else we do

we say one thing in public to other countries but behind closed doors the US has degraded to militarized police control where when one is arrested the cops control the narrative along with the judges not common law

cannabis is legal for the corporations to trade and profit off of and there are no protections for consumers just empty promises

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

Flip Flop Joe?

Fuck me you coulda dug deeper and used waffle or something better. Flip Flop Joe just sounds like a dude who’s bringing the party with him.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

They are trying to evoke John Kerry... I guess.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

I’d have gone with Sloppy Joe, if you’re going the food route.

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[-] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 years ago

I am not from the US and understand how the US law works better than you do

[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

the US is not legal in any sense in any state…

Can you elaborate? Because I have purchased legally sold cannabis up the East coast of the USA. Both recreational and medical cannabis. Do you mean on a federal level?

I also own a medical cannabis card issued to me by the state I live in.

I’m also unsure about your corporation comments. Most dispensaries are owned by mom and pops or startups. Do, do you live in the USA? Just curious.

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[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is not the first time I've seen one of your comments at the dead bottom, downvoted into oblivion. Maybe it's time to reevaluate some of your opinions? It really doesn't help that you write with the clarity of a recent stroke victim.

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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

Why does the KKKeast hate a plant so much?

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

China's experience with opium has a lot to do with views on drugs in Asia.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thailand has decided that they will be going backwards next year. What are the two micronations in the Pacific?

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[-] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

It’s illegal in Jamaica?!

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago

Yup. But, the thing about laws in the third world is that they only kind-of exist.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They exist for sure if you're a tourist. You're either a payday for a local cop or an example to be trotted out as proof they enforce those laws. The latter is so a higher up can divert DEA funding into their bank account.

Obviously that's not every developing country, maybe not even most. But unless you're very familiar with the country and area, it's not a risk you should take.

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[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Thailand can be taken off this list. New conservative govt made it illegal again.

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[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 7 points 2 years ago
[-] flubo@feddit.de 19 points 2 years ago

Since germany is blue on the map and its only legal here from today on, i dont think it is an old, out of date map. But maybe the information for some Other country is just wrong?

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 years ago

US is wrong for a good amount of states I believe

[-] Goodie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Given that weed is now legal for medicinal use, there's been a lot less enforcement here in NZ.

Mostly, at the outset cops have no way of knowing if you have a prescription or not, and asking if it's a suitable prescription is a pretty big no-no.

[-] HeapOfDogs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

What's with the tiny blue dot in Australia

[-] protist@mander.xyz 11 points 2 years ago

That appears to be the Australian Capital Territory. Being from the US, I'm going to assume Canberra has a separate jurisdiction from surrounding states, like Washington DC

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Dprk says unknown and while i couldnt tell you the legality on paper, its sold in stores and pretty easy to obtain. I think its usually leaf not flower though?

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It's inaccurate to say that it's legal in any part of the United States. "Illegal but unenforced" maybe.

[-] SlothMama@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Illegal at a Federal level, but legal on a state level is a weird type of ambiguous, but the states it is legal in your won't be raided by local police, and probably Even Federal Police.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

That would be illegal but unenforced

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