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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ikidd@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Looks expensive. The grey ones are the broken ones.

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[-] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 296 points 1 year ago

Has anyone investigated the consequences of all the sunlight that’s leaked into the environment because of this disaster? What sort of clean up are we looking at and how long will it take?

[-] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 111 points 1 year ago

The effect on the local goth population will be devastating.

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

The problem when photon containment breaks like this is that we can never be 100% sure which photons were SUPPOSED to be there, and which ones leaked out. We'll need a dedicated team of particle physicists with very small tweazers to have any hope of sorting out this mess.

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately the VST (Very Small Tweezers) project is running a decade behind schedule and needs an additional $10 billion in funding, but the older RSP (Rather Small Pliers) project could be retrofitted to support photon retrieval with a bit of light-absorbent paint.

[-] paridoxical@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

It's okay, this happened outside the environment.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

We've began the process of capturing all the seabirds exposed to the sunlight and scrubbing it off them with a combination of lye and baking soda.

They seem unhappy about this process.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 156 points 1 year ago

I feel like this is one of those things that definitely has to have happened before now; after all, grid-scale solar isn't something we've just started doing in the last two or three years, we've been at it for at least 15 that I know of. And hail isn't exactly a new phenomenon in TX. So I wonder why we're hearing about it like it's news. Is this fossil fuel funded bad press? Did they skimp on protection they shouldn't have?

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's Texas. So without doing any research, it's *probably all of the above and also there's corruption in there somewhere...

[-] JoMomma@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Idk, here in the PNW I had only seen hail once in the past 10 years, this spring it has hailed over a dozen times... climate change is wild

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[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 13 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's just good footage. Photovoltaics are synergetic with fossil fuel power, both in terms of green washing and actually prolonging dependence.

[-] lemmyman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

No, because they're shitposting at best and trolling at worst. See their other comments.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

I can tell you right now whatever alternative solution they have, no one will accept.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Placing hardware cloth or similar over the panels with a couple inches of stand-off should prevent most any damage from even lege hail. It will probably reduce sunlight by a few percent across the entire field, but considering the storms Texas gets it would likely be worth it in the long run instead of having most of an entire farm wrecked.

But then Texas isn’t big on protecting their power sources from environmental impacts, are they.

[-] Zomg@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Nah, how else will Republicans cry that solar energy is bad, and that we need coal and oil?

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

How strong that cloth and attachment would need to be to survive gusts from a storm that's capable of generating such big hail?

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hardware cloth is metal mesh, so any wind strong enough to remove it would have long since destroyed the panel it was attached to thanks to the surface area of the panel. The standoffs would probably need to be “L” tabs or similar arranged in a grid across the face of the panel. Heck, just erecting a screen over the entire field would probably be better and cheaper than doing individual panels, but a field-size cover would probably end up with needing higher strength posts to mount it because of the greater drag over surface area. That said, I’m not an engineer, so the most efficient and effective method of protection is going to have to come from someone with more knowledge than my guesswork.

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[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago
[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Armor Class,

It is very hard to hit

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Hailstorm was consistently rolling them nat 20s, need to check for loaded dice

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[-] Patquip@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago
[-] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Americans inventing new freedom units instead of using squared meters...

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

If by "Americans inventing" you mean "Europeans inventing" then yes

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[-] JoMomma@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Before the enactment of the metric system, many countries in Europe used their own official acres. In France, the traditional unit of area was the arpent carré, a measure based on the Roman system of land measurement. The acre was used only in Normandy (and neighbouring places outside its traditional borders), but its value varied greatly across Normandy, ranging from 3,632 to 9,725 square metres, with 8,172 square metres being the most frequent value.[clarification needed] But inside the same pays of Normandy, for instance in pays de Caux, the farmers (still in the 20th century) made the difference between the grande acre (68 ares, 66 centiares) and the petite acre (56 to 65 ca).[50] The Normandy acre was usually divided in 4 vergées (roods) and 160 square perches, like the English acre.

*Europeans invented the acre 1000 yeats ago

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[-] Derby@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I'll convert it to a metric unit for you so it's easier to visualize: the solar farm is 2*10^27 square Angstroms.

Hope that helps!

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[-] BigLgame@lemy.lol 21 points 1 year ago

All the people arguing for nuclear, are you sure Texas is best place to handle that? I'm fine with nuclear as long as they have a reasonable plan to store the waste, but Texas is horrible at managing anything energy related.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Don’t tread on my private infrastructure!!

[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, but if this was a nuclear power plant we'd have a second Fukushima on our hands.

[-] McFarius@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago

Nuclear powerplants are so safe that they've only had a handful of (admittedly disastrous and high profile) failures, and have killed less people per watt hour generated than even wind and solar power. Nuclear power is the safest, cleanest, most efficient form of green energy we can get right now. Yes, it can be dangerous if not managed properly. But Fukushima, Chernobyl, and Three Mile Island were not freak accidents. Deliberate mistakes were made that were known at the time and should be used as warnings to keep the industry safe, not as sirens that lead is to swear off nuclear energy.

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you for taking the time to write this. The disinformation around nuclear power is extremely damaging to humanity.

[-] McFarius@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Not a problem. To me, nuclear power is the answer to the mantra of "technology will solve the climate crisis," and we've had it for years, yet we're too afraid to use it!

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, fission power plants, famously vulnerable to average thunderstorms.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I so rarely get to reference this "so bad it's good" made-for-TV movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Twister

This television film was inspired by a real-life near disaster that had taken place on June 24. 1998, when an F2 tornado hit the Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Station in Ohio resulting in the loss of off-site power. Despite that, the film bears no resemblance to the actual events at Davis-Besse.

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 year ago

Lol concrete and steel doesn't give a shit about hail

[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 14 points 1 year ago

Sounds like something Big Concrete and Steel would say.

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[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I think even when damaged they still produce.

More modern vertical arrays might fair better in hurricane-prone areas.

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