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Redundant communities across instances (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by bfr0@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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As a new reddit exile, I may be misunderstanding this.

In theory something like a !gaming community could crop up on multiple large instances, especially during the mass exodus while instances are getting hammered with spikes in volume.

If that's the case, we'll have fragmented communities across instances. Is there any way besides subscribing to each of them to combine them into a sort of multi-reddit type aggregation? Or is this considered a temporary (albeit important to adoption) problem during the crazy stages?

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[-] ritswd@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

I also struggle to see the issue here. People will subscribe to the various communities across instances, and they’ll quit the ones they don’t like, thereby making the best ones rise to the top, just like it works across subreddits of the same topic.

I guess the concern is discoverability? On mobile web, Beehaw’s homepage show “Local” (not sure if just Beehaw or all instance). It’s true that it’d be good if the default was “All”, so discoverability isn’t fragmented.

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[-] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

This is a nothing burger. Who cares if there's a hundred different cat instances. That's already what it was.

There can only be one orange cat instance? Give it a fucking break

[-] bfr0@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I largely agree with you, there's already redundant subreddits and such.

But I think when we're trying to capture a ton of Reddit users, anything that represents a hurdle to new user adoption is a concern. That goes double for things that are intrinsic to the Fediverse that aren't intuitive to new users like myself.

[-] PriorProject@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I'm think what you're feeling is not really the community duplication (although that's worse right now cause everything was dead 2w ago and there's almost no downside to making new communities cause almost nothing is well established), but rather the poor community discovery.

One of the engines that drove the "natural" aggregation of users in the big subreddits is that when you searched for subreddits the big ones were at the top of the list. When you search on Lemmy, the big communities may not be on the list at all. But I think folks recognize this as a challenge and will work on it. This week is about keeping the lights on though.

[-] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It's okay to not know something. We aren't born with perfect knowledge of subreddits. Reddit was just as confusing at first.

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[-] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We don't need to become reddit though, reddit is the problem. There is something about how it's structured that encourages toxicity. I would be more concerned about keeping these communities positive and welcoming. We don't need to make it inviting to all of reddit... I'm sure I'm not the only one that would rather see hurdles for entry than open floodgates for the kind of stuff that was making even the nicest and sanest of people into crazy assholes. My outlook has completely changed since leaving that cesspool and I'm actually horrified by how nihilistic it had made me. The world is a mess but reddit is worse.

[-] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I see your point. I browse all from world and I seem to be able to see everything anyway so who cares. I'll see all the cat pics no matter where they're posted. I rarely ever looked at my subbed feed on reddit anyway as it was all just food so I'd rather just see people post and I'll pick and chose what to click on.

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[-] nulldev@lemmy.vepta.org 7 points 2 years ago

I don't think this is a problem. It's the same on reddit where you can have multiple gaming subreddits or multiple news subreddits. Eventually the communities will consolidate.

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[-] steve@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

The lemmy ui could add a way to group communities at the user level. Something like multi reddits.

[-] ry_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The first site to figure this out def has the biggest chance of being “the one” right now

[-] Stahlreck@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

Depends on if there will be a "big one" or even if there should be (after all, the point of this whole system is to not have all eggs in one basket no?). IMO there should be some sort of tag functionality across all instances and some sort of UI that just simply shows you all instances under this tag as if they were one (with the option to filter them out for yourself). Something like that perhaps.

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[-] OptimusPrime@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here is an issue that would solve this, but ideas are welcome.

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[-] orbit@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

My proposed solution to this issue is a way to group subscribed channels. Like if I sub to x number of Games communities I wish I could drop them all in a folder labeled Games so I could browse all of those posts in one spot.

UI would be like Communities -> Subscribed (All) -> "Individual" folder hierarchy containing w/e you want.

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[-] OptimusPrime@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh man, it's going to be so much fun to have to group similar communities when there are hundreds of instances! 🙃

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