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[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 128 points 9 months ago

Looks like everything I've ever done in Kerbal

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

You actually make it to space? I usually just end up creating shitty versions of the V1 with passengers.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

The Kerbal solution is more rockets.

The actual solution is probably some control surfaces for the atmosphere, reaction wheels for space (both for steering) and upscaling to the biggest rocket available with no more than 2 largest size fuel tanks for each rocket. SRBs are your friend until they aren't. Stabilizers save more fuel than imagined.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 3 points 9 months ago

Oniom boosters is the go, use fuel and drop repeat.

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[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah, I've got a probe around every planet and a kerbstronaut that left the solar system. But no one comes home

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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 107 points 9 months ago

Thanks to this stabilization I've come to the expert conclusion that that shit spun yo

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I only re posted a repost from TikTok

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Thanks for posting, interesting stuff.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Lemmy has declared you a sinner for this.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I hesitated a lot. But in the end I haven’t seen this anywhere else and it really showed what was happening. In the end I decided to post it.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

It is a cool video but you used the words "repost" and "tik tok" and that triggered automated downvotes lol

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Oh I know. It’s my little self immolation move.

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[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago

Wow. You must be some kind of rocket scientist!

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I can't even tell you how many times I've watched TNG.

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[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 37 points 9 months ago

Missed opportunity to put it to the docking song from Interstellar

[-] pendulum_@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago
[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago

The song is called No Time For Caution by Hans Zimmer. Because when Hans isn't falling asleep on his organ, he actually makes so damn good music.

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[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This made my dizzy and that doesn't help with the fact that I discovered you can get nausea and headaches from drinking matcha on an empty stomach an hour ago

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

I discovered you can get nausea and headaches from drinking matcja on an empty stomach an hour ago

Matcja can catcha.

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[-] ghostblackout@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Ticktock watermark 💀💀 but this is a really cool video

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Yeah. I hesitated posting because of TikTok. But I felt the video explained things in a way I had not seen anywhere else and it was worth it.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You could see how uncontrollable it was even on the stream itself. They have graphics showing the positioning of the ship. Seems like RCS packed it up and decided to go home (burned to crisp)

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago

Good thing they also sped it up by about 4x or we never would have noticed. 🙄

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

The whole point of this video is to emphasize the rotation of the vehicle. Speeding it up does help with that. You can watch the official feed of you want to watch in real time.

[-] pendulum_@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

It's an excellent video. The realtime feed made it look like everything was great, fully under control. This shows that it really wasn't near the end, and it's loss wasn't truly "unexpected"

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

Needs more sped-up and shitty tiktok text overlays.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

I knew it was spinning, but not that much. Can't wait to hear the final report on what happened there.

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 14 points 9 months ago

Reaction control thrusters didn't work. Blame it all on the Everyday Astronaut.

[-] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Why would we blame that on him?

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[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Official report: rocker went wee boom

[-] nerfherder@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Much better perspective.

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 9 points 9 months ago

The Starship video in general is so cool. And I love the stabilizing effect in this one, it really does help.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago
[-] Benaaasaaas@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I mean, it's literally rocket science

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[-] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

I wonder how they stabilised the video.

Rotate the video at a constant rate about a point until the rocket hits turbulence/has a change of direction and then repeat?

[-] cygon@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's a standard feature in nearly all common video editors (i.e. DaVinci Resolve or Adobe Premiere).

Usually, stabilization goes over all video frames and tries to find image transformations (rotation + translation + zoom) that make a frame match as closely as possible with the previous frame. That's an oversimplified explanation, but from a user point-of-view, these tools are mature enough to be applied with just a few clicks.

This video is definitely the result of that, as, whoever did it, didn't even bother to insert a cut when the feed switches between left side and right side camera, thus making the stabilization spazz out momentarily.

[-] Turun@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago

Where do you see the camera switch side? The fin on which the camera is mounted moves every now and then, but I think we only ever see the perspective of one camera.

[-] cygon@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You're right, it doesn't. I could have sworn I saw the opposite fin for a few seconds yesterday, but I must have been mistaken.

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

There used to be a great subreddit for image stabilisations, always enjoyed seeing stuff from there and people would sometimes go into detail about the tools and techniques they used .

There probably still is, but there used to be too.

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[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Most advanced video compositors/editors have stabilization features. What you do is you give the program a couple of reference points that you know aren't moving, and the program will automatically track those points over time

[-] page@discuss.online 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What an absolute shit show. Why SpaceX isn't getting raked over the coals for not being able to even maintain control on reentry is insane. That is like the least difficult challenge they face in getting Starship to work and they failed spectacularly. Not to even mention losing tiles that high up in the atmosphere.

My bet is that, just like with Falcon 9, Starship will become expendable with first stage reuse. They'll continue to pump out Starlink for their primary customers, governments, and Musk will eventually talk himself into securities and espionage charges. At which point sober responsible adults will take over SpaceX and drop his pet project that is costing them billions. Raptor may or may not be repurposed.

/rant

Cool video though

[-] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

There is no part of space travel that is easy. Do not so easily dismiss the challenge. Nor demean the progress SpaceX has made to solving those challenges. The starship has no near-peer competitor.

This test got further than the prior test and nothing unexpected was lost.

I'm no fan of Musk, and I'm not a big fan of SpaceX, but credit where credit is due, they are bringing progress and leading an industry that was once very stagnant.

[-] dirtbiker509@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

The primary mission was a successful orbital trajectory, the secondary mission was a fuel transfer experiment. For the transfer experiment they had vent the hot gas to get starship rotating for the transfer. They ran out of hot gas which is fine, the trajectory was already set for re-entry. There was literally no risk here and it all went exactly as planned.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I very much disagree with you. SpaceX has a completely different approach than NASA. NASA plans everything ahead and the first flight is expected to work flawlessly. That takes years and years of preparation. While SpaceX sends half finished prototypes knowing they will not finish their journey. The then iterate to fix the issues they discovered on the previous iteration. This was how they worked on the Falcons as well. Remember how they even started sending satellites on commercial flights as well as Starlinks before they were even able to safely land a booster? They knew their vehicle was able to reach orbit (from the many previous attempts and failures) and were still figuring out landing while they were using them.

[-] page@discuss.online 4 points 9 months ago

You do remember that they signed a contract with NASA to have a lunar lander ready this year, right? A lander that requires more than a few launches and reuse of both the first stage and tanker Starships?

These launches are less about iteration than they are marketing. They are burning money and need to maintain interest in their magic Starship. They need just as many years as NASA and they need NASA's money. The difference is, SpaceX have not demonstrated they can achieve their technical goals and they gloss over all the challenges while at the same time they waste money and Raptor engines on these publicity flights.

Remember, Falcon 9 was earning them money while they experimented with landing. And they hyped up its capabilities and cost before eventually under delivering. Starship will be different in that it may not even male them money.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 9 months ago

Nothing’s going to stop it now.

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