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yea, it's also just up to 160
using grayjay to download wham:last christmas gives us up to 134kbps opus. which is fine, it's the official channel and all, so upload is pretty good.
Just talking, is more like 118kbps, a gresham lecture came in at that.
Opus is variable, which is pretty good. saves bandwith and all.
also to point out, youtube reencodes a lot of videos, so the older it is - the more likely it has been re-encoded. and youtube is not encoding from an old master file.
Point is, totally agree on the generational thing, which you (mostly) avoids with spotify.
it's good enough for most audio setups if you find the decent audio on youtube first