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[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been saying that for years, but everyone said I was nuts. You can't solve anything in capitalism. If money and consumerism are your only goals, that can't solve anything. Best you can do is patch... and that's about it. There is no money in long term solutions.

[-] StrongGoal2001@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

The problem is, socialism is worst. We have no choice. I heard about new autosustentable communities... I would like to know more about it

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How would you know, have you ever lived in a socialist society? I have and I can tell you first hand, capitalism is so much worse. The problem is that everyone around is capitalist, and yes, you can't compete with that (tech development and things like that) or you can, but it's really hard. There are way to mitigate these discrepencies though, it just takes a lot of effort.

Take a look at the Venus Project, you might like that as well.

[-] StrongGoal2001@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I don't understand the reason for the downvotes. Explain your point instead of downvoting. By the way, I'm from a country (social context) full of Venezuelans and many people from Cuba and Nicaragua. They know what happens with this kind of approach.
Regarding your point, what you said about competing with capitalism in terms of technological development is interesting. So maybe, in my opinion and being open to what you have to say, we need better alternatives.

[-] 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't downvote you BTW, I never downvote, I either upvote or don't vote at all.

Socialism as a regieme, for one, doesn't have a bad name like communism does, and two, has been tried, but in a lot fewer countries than communism has. So, regarding that, I get why many liberal americans are pro socialism, but against communism (even though, there aren't that many differences, except tye authorotorian nature of communism, but they already have that with their corps, just too blind to actually see it).

As I said, I've lived in both socialism and capitalism (no one ever notices that the first one is a socio-economic order, but the second one is just an economic order ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ˜, the social order is democracy ๐Ÿ˜‚), and socialism was a lot better from a lot of aspects. Sure, it wasn't perfect, there are things that can be made better, but than again, nothing is perfect. What I do firmly believe though is that socialism combined with something like the Venus Project, can make foundations for a great society that actually values human life and everything alive on this earth.

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