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A significant portion of the world uses water to clean after doing their business! It's just us westerners that are odd about it.
I'm curious what the history behind it is, because I never feel clean if I only wipe. Like if you handled faeces with your hands (for whatever reason) would you be OK with just wiping it off with a paper towel? I sure wouldn't!
If it wasnt for China, Westerners would also still scratch their asses with shells and stones.
So middle east gave them bidet and China gave them paper. They are so lucky
Hahaha, I had no clue about the shells. You piqued my interest, so I went down the toilet paper history rabbit hole.
I knew that the Romans used communal sponges, I didn't know they were called tersorium though. Shockingly they spread disease.
Apparently here in the north, the vikings used animal bones, rags, and oyster shells! I'm not surprised we didn't use paper though, since we didn't really get paper until the Christians came and brought paper with them, and even then it was only for the educated Christian elite for hundreds of years, up until around the 1200-1300 or so, a good 700 years after people in China wiped their butts with paper!
Toilet paper started being produced here in Sweden in 1882, and the first factory stayed producing until sometime in the early 2000s.
That last bit sounds really gross by modern standards, but given that skirts came in layers, and were really long, they were already covered with the muck of the outside ground so in the grand scheme of things I don't think it made a very big difference.
My bidet butt could never handle scraping with oysters or splinterful toilet paper; I'd just scrape my anus off. I can barely use regular toilet paper as it is. People of old were built different hahahaha.
He doesn't know how to use the three seashells!
(FYI, “there are dozens of us” is an Arrested Development quote. Your questions are definitely valid, but I’m not sure the poster of the comment actually meant much by it, besides the joke.)
It is not a significant portion. Most countries still use TP
Some cursory googling for this turned up a value by researcher Alex Crumbie, though I didn't find any papers about it. According to them however 30% of the world uses toilet paper, the majority consumer being China. The remaining 70% of the world finds other solutions.
Given that Muslims wash as a religious requirement and are 1.8 billion…
I'm from Italy. It's full of bidets here.
Va bene! That's not so much the case here in Sweden.
It kind of boggles the mind though. Setting aside the fact that paper only can't possibly clean enough, isn't it also more environmentally friendly to use water? I mean obviously if you pour a bathtub over your butt every time you do your business, then probably not so much, but no one uses that much water.
I use only water from the bidet.