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Nato members have pledged their support for an "irreversible path" to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.

While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance's 32 members said they had "unwavering" support for Ukraine's war effort.

Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine's military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.

The bloc's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: "Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest."

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[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 65 points 5 months ago
[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Tankies are never in shambles. If Ukraine doesn't join NATO they'll say "See, NATO was just using Ukraine" and if Ukraine joins NATO they'll say "See, NATO is expanding east again". Tankies are never wrong when it comes to believing their own delusions.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
[-] SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

You posting this screenshot around means you don't understand that this is a self own on your part. Captain_Pronina is undoubtably correct. The people who believe the Uyghur genocide is happening are morally correct even if they get proven wrong in the future. This is because their stance is against genocide no matter what, which is a just stance. Tankies, on the other hand, don't care about genocide, they care about simping for the CCP. That is why they're participating in genocide denial now with Ukraine, Tibet, and the Uyghurs. Genocide denial, especially when it's plausible, is immoral. So even if their denial turned out to be correct, they're still evil morons because their initial reaction was to deny the genocide rather to stand against it or figure out the truth.

[-] paholg@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

I mean, I've seen tankies spin anything to fit their narrative, I'm sure they'll continue to do so. Remember, anything resembling support of Ukraine is an act of aggression against Russia, and tantamount to unilaterally starting WWIII.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

Tankies in disarray!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I just have to wonder what the state of the NATO coalition is going to be if Trump takes office a second time.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Probably dented for quite a while but Europe is already in the process of re-arming and there are no existential threats that could prevent it buffalo buffalo buffalo from doing so. Russia can't take all of the EU or European NATO countries at once and Chinas military and navy aren't set up with long distance power projection in mind. The only exception would be the US itself if they really went off the deep end on a second Trump term.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Europe is already in the process of re-arming

They're in the process of shoveling fortunes into a ravenous private sector arms industry.

Russia can’t take all of the EU or European NATO countries at once

None of these countries want a repeat of WW2. Quite a few have large right wing nationalist blocks sympathetic to Putin's United Russia white nationalist model.

This won't be a fight between Russia and the EU. It will be a war of economic attrition that favors the international arms industry and cripples the domestic service sector, to the outrage of domestic people.

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