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So you think ukraine should just start a full blown war against all of russia? Thats how you make sure ukraine is wiped off the map.
Didn't Russia already start that? They're digging out the bottom of the barrel for conscripts already
Key words are "full blown war". Russia brought war for sure. It's not total war. Not for Russia.
So you think RUSSIA should just start a full blown war against all of ukraine? Thats how you make sure ukraine is wiped off the map.
Quit pretending Ukraine is not already under attach. All this dose is to force Russia to allocate resources to protect its own inferstructure.
Well i admit im no expert on military strategy but i assume neither is anyone else here. We will just have to see how the russian crackheads will react.
Imho the most realistic chance for russia to actually stop this war is for their populace to turn against the government. Otherwise its gonna drag on forever. That means russian civilian casualties would be a strategic nightmare from what i understand, because it would give the people a reason to fight in this pointless war.
Agreed. As far as best option to stop it.
But here is where we differ. The possibility that Ukraine "may" do bad things. With absolutely no evidence of them wanting to do so. Is not reason to allow Russia to continue to do bad things. By preventing Ukraine from damaging the inferstructure they are using to do so.
The whole idea that one nation should b able to attack another on its borders. While 3rd party nations refuse to let that nation fight back. Basically means civilians in Ukraine are being sacrificed to save Russian ones. No war is free of civilian deaths. And stopping all wars would be preferable.
But even as little more than a layman. 2 things are obvious.
1 Ukraine currently must dedicate staff and resources to defending civilians and military assets from a huge nation that decided to invade them.
2 Russia faces very little risk to its own civilians or military assets. So is able to dedicate nearly all of them to attacking Ukraine.
So let’s continue this thought exercise. What do you think the best way would be to turn the populace against the government?
I’d argue that bringing the Russian populace a taste of what Ukraine is feeling every day would be a good start.