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[-] galoisghost@aussie.zone 162 points 1 year ago

My six year old iPhone still receives software updates

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

This is why I made the switch from android to iPhone too

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Tbf new android phones are now getting ~8 year of software updates, plus you can install lineage to get more

[-] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

As an android user, I looked at the phone list for iOS 18, and I was jealous.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago

Google and Samsung now provide updates for 7 years, and Fairphone provides updates for 8 years.

From what I can tell, Apple doesn't promise a set number of years for updates. The iPhone x got about 5 years of updates before support was dropped, but Apple will occasionally give security updates to older devices if they're severe enough.

[-] Icell@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

With Fairphone 5, they guarantee at least 8 years of software updates but they will actually try 10 years! ^1

And Apple was recently forced to disclose their software support commitment in the UK due to regulations. Apple guarantees at least 5 years of software updates, which is less than Google, Samsung, and Fairphone. Apple is no longer the leader in software support! ^2

[-] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

But updates for what? You gain very little from security because nobody is targeting you and no new major features, so what's it really worth? Maybe I'm wrong about my perception of those things though... I've used 2 androids for around 8 years each no problem.

[-] UID_Zero@infosec.pub 32 points 1 year ago

You gain very little from security because nobody is targeting you...

It's not about being targeted, it's about being caught in the big fishing net that scammers are throwing. You don't have to be targeted to have security concerns.

If a phone isn't receiving regular security updates, I won't use it. My Pixel 5a just got replaced because it's coming up on end of support. My new Pixel has 7 years of support, so I feel a lot better about keeping it longer.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

My Pixel 4a has LineageOS on it, and is installing an update from two days ago right now.

[-] scott@lem.free.as 4 points 1 year ago

Sure, the general OS is getting security updates but hardware-specific updates have stopped.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's true, but hardware drivers are a much smaller attack surface area.

[-] UID_Zero@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Fair, but I meant updates from the original manufacturer.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It is unfortunate that manufacturers, Google, and app makers have all engaged in behaviors that make running a third-party OS less viable for most people.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Updates to secure the operating systems are worth it. Apple has a fantastic track record of supporting the older phones. It shows they've really planned ahead and thought about the entire lifecycle of their device. They will also accept your old phone after its life is complete and responsibly recycle it.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Correct. You are wrong about your perception.

[-] Gregs_blue_parrot@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Good to hear, but I don't think I will have a phone for as long as six years, because for one thing the battery probably will have become unusable by then - they can only be charged so many times.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

You know you can replace the battery, right? Like, 10 minutes with some basic repair knowledge and you can have it done. I usually do a battery replacement on my iPhone ever 2 years just because it will inevitably slow down and the battery life becomes unusable.

[-] mvpts@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

No way. You need more than 10 minutes and way more than "basic" repair knowledge.

Iphones are by design extremely hard to repair.

Proprietary screws, glued in components (which needs to be removed and reapplied) and battery management components which need to be resoldered to the new battery so that the phone accepts it.

Its been a while since i have repaired an iphone but i doubt its gotten better.

If you can do it in 10 minutes I will gove you 10 bucks though.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I’m a former sysadmin (10 years) with 1 year spent working as cellphone repair prior to that. I could bang out batteries all day long for replacing. It’s not rocket science.

Save your money. $10 doesn’t even cover my morning coffee.

[-] mvpts@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

You misrepresent the time, tools and knowledge needed to do those repairs.

"10 minutes and some basic repair knowledge" is still misleading even if you are a former sysadmin of 10 years.

Enjoy your overpriced coffee!

[-] Kimdracula@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

And that's boring plus ruining the sealing

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I went from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 13 . I had replaced the battery on the iPhone 7 already, it still was getting updates but physically the charge port started wearing out and the NFC stopped working .

Was a good run, phone was super reliable needed no tweaking to work.

I have also been using iPhones since the iPhone 3G. Long before it existed on Android it was very easy to movie everything from your old phone to the new one, first via iTunes desktop then later via iCloud.

Family sharing for apps and family backups pooled in iCloud is also very convenient.

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