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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196

Important context: This was an instance of a crowd crush caused by poor crowd control.

edit: action has now been taken against the offending comment :)

(also some of you guys in the comments here have been yoinked by mods too… just be nice? this post was not an invitation to test out your boundaries)

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[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No such rules in this one – your god is a lie sold to castrate and incapacitate you.

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 44 points 4 months ago

Does that mean you deserve to die in a crowd crush, something not at all unique to religious gatherings?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 44 points 4 months ago

r/atheism and its consequences have been disastrous to the traditional practice of being a decent human being online

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 26 points 4 months ago

Riiiiiiiight it's atheists that are the problem. Not just shitty people who happen to be atheist...

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Being an atheist and being a member of r/atheism are not the same thing

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

Claiming that /r/atheism has any significant impact on the internet culture as a whole is just the silliest thing to claim without evidence or explanation of any sort. It doesn't even say what he's claiming they did to the internet's culture just an implication that it was bad.

Pretty empty table pounding statement

[-] alyth@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This statement hardly merits the same level of proof as a scientific publication. The original post is an example of the obnoxious behavior you find on r/atheism.
They feel superior to and smarter than religious people. In this extreme case, the poster expresses feeling superior to people who died in a stampede that took place at a religious event.
Internet atheists who think they are superior to believers / Believers who think they are superior to atheists are two sides of the same coin.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Scientific publication? Jesus dude, I'm just saying you're showing a whole lot of shit without merit

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 9 points 4 months ago

With emphasis, no, it’s shitty people who happen to be atheist who are the problem. :) Just to clarify, because I would never make that first statement.

“the silliest thing to claim without evidence or explanation of any sort”

You are right, I left a lot implied because my sentiment is a fairly common one. But fair to point out—my apologies. Here is a citation showing that I am far from the first person to hold this opinion on r/atheism.

Note again that I don’t hold any prejudice against any belief system; I only hold that r/atheism in particular historically fostered a culture of toxicity which makes anti-religious prejudice and personal attacks more common compared to offline spaces.

[-] x4740N@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Riiiiiiiight it's atheists that are the problem. Not just shitty people who happen to be atheist...

90% of religious people have a similar reaction when people complain about shitty people who happen to be religious.

Turns out you find shitty people in every group. Who knew?

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Problem is atheists are complaining about the people who run the religion, there's no "head of the atheism"

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

The linked comment isn't complaining about the head of anything.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

They're not complaining either. They're mocking. You're talked about complaining about bad people when atheists say these are bad Christians. They're talking about the heads of churches usually or heads of political parties. You know the people with influence and power.

When you talk about bad atheists you talk about randommorons on the internet who are mocking people who don't deserve it

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

You know the people with influence and power.

Who are shitty people that happen to be religious. Criticise them for being shitty and pushing shitty policies, don't pretend that every prison who happens to be religious is responsible for them or believes and behaves in the same way.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

While not impossible elsewhere. Extremely large crush killings like this happen with alarming regularity at religious events.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago

Concerts and sporting events have rules and regulations to prevent this nowadays. Guess who cries "persecution" when you try the same for them.

Also, a lot of these events are in the poorer countries, where these regulations don't exist.

And also because, apparently, god doesn't want to rescue these people.

[-] anarchist@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

No it does not mean that.

[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No such rules in this one

Though neither specifically mention religion, here are the rules for c/196 and lemmy.blahaj.zone that may cover this case:

196 rules:

lemmy.blahaj.zone's guidelines:

lemmy.blahaj.zone's TOS:

In addition, lemmy.blahaj.zone's TOS states that they must follow the laws of Australia, which may have legislation regarding this issue:

Edit: replaced references from lemmy.world's TOS, I got the instance wrong, my bad! - Also replaced non-image links with archive.org links for posterity (image links have been archived, but they have not been replaced for embedding reasons)

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No such rules in this one

Though neither specifically mention religion, here are the rules for c/196 and lemmy.world that may cover this case:

196 rules:

lemmy.world TOS:

In addition, lemmy.world's TOS states that they must follow the laws of the below three countries, which may have laws regarding this issue:

[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I read that and don’t see how it’s relevant in this case. I’m simply telling the truth. Invest your tithe into a retirement account and call it a day.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

You cannot be telling the truth because not all gods have the same rules. Also no common gods demand castration or incapacitation.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 4 months ago

user was banned for this comment 🙃

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