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lemmy user(ule)s: "this sign won't stop me because i can't read" (lemmy.cafe)

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https://www.specialolympics.org/stories/impact/why-the-r-word-is-the-r-slur

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[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 4 months ago

If I call you "stupid," "moronic," or "intellectually bankrupt" you know what I'm saying. Getting offended by the specific wording of an ad hominem, while giving synonymous terms a pass, is truly some of the finest hair-splitting I have ever had the displeasure of seeing.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 42 points 4 months ago

Imagine calling the difference between people who do stupid things and people who are born with diagnosed mental illnesses "splitting hairs".

It's very, very simple. In one case, you are attacking someone who is completely in control of their mental facilities. In the other, you are attacking people who are literally incapable of defending themselves, from birth. They are not synonymous. If you think that level of punching down is okay, then be as indignant and self-righteous about it as you want, but you deserve to be told.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Intellectually-disabled people were originally defined with words such as "morons" or "imbeciles", which then became commonly used insults.

I don't see anyone getting a ban anywhere for calling someone a "moron," for any other reason than making an ad hominem. The thought is almost laughable.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So, we're just going to pretend that language doesn't evolve because it justifies your bias?

People didn't put their foot down when the meaning of those words began to shift, and now they mean something entirely different. In our more socially and culturally aware culture, we as a people understand nuance and are generally educated enough to see what's happening. We have by and large decided that it's a bad thing to continue normalizing attacking the mentally disabled.

Fuck off with your pseudo-intellectual defense of toxic, dehumanizing culture. Words mean things. The things they mean can change. Those ones, in a less educated and accepting time, did. The ones we have now have not. Your attempt to dismiss that is genuinely hateful.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The push to get people to stop saying it Streisand Effected the word into a slur. There's no reason it shouldn't have just gone the way of "moron," except people turning it into a bigger problem than it ever had any right being.

The entirety of your final paragraph reads like a guilt by association fallacy.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

The push to get people to stop saying it Streisand Effected the word into a slur. There's no reason it shouldn't have just gone the way of "moron,

Sure. But it didn't. And now it is a slur. And no matter how much you'd like to defend your version of the word, that isn't what it means. Sitting in your own bubble and insisting on your own version of language history doesn't change the meaning of the word to the evolving world.