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... and I can't even continue the chat from my phone.

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[-] alyth@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Of the apps you mentioned, I can use Discord and Element in my browser. WhatsApp even installs as a PWA. And Steam games can be launched through Lutris afaik?

There is no such option with Signal though.

[-] snugglebutt 12 points 5 months ago

With Discord in browser, you lose Krisp, RPC ipc socket support (aRPC might work, no clue), and from what I remember screensharing only worked with browser tab capture.
Element will eat your RAM no matter where it's running. You could add it as a Nextcloud app to triple your RAM usage! Woo
And you can't run Steam games without the Steam client running. That's how their DRM works. (Unless you use the goldberg steam emulator, which is a whole another thing to talk about)

[-] JoeyJoeJoeJr@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Using an E2E chat app in your browser necessarily makes the keys and decrypted messages available to your browser. They would have the ability to read messages, impersonate users, alter messages, etc. It would defeat the purpose of a secure messaging platform.

[-] alyth@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't get it. Who is "they"? Why can't you fetch the encrypted message from the server and then decrypt it client side?

[-] JoeyJoeJoeJr@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"They" is the browser/browser maker. The browser, acting as the client, would have access to the keys and data. The browser maker could do whatever they want with it.

To be clear, I'm not saying they would, only that it defeats the purpose of an E2E chat, where your goal is to minimize/eliminate the possibility of snooping.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

You realize that your kernel which loads keys into memory can also access all this right? So can anything which shares memory space on the platform.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

The bigger risk is browser exploits, not just who develops it. There's more attack surface and more ways to exfiltrate data

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

I think the encrypted messages are not saved in the server. You probably have to backup from phone and restore it on pc. "They" is the other programs running on browser

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