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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago

You know Biden is not part of the House and the House is run by Republicans, right?

[-] cybersin@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OK, so replace his photo with any congressperson if you insist on being so pedantic.

The point is the absurdity of american government, which Biden as the president, is a symbol of.

When advantageous, most republicans would also claim that the US respects international law, then turn around and pass a vote like this.

EDIT: about a third of house dems supported the bill

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Well Mike Johnson would be most fitting as he is the speaker and decides which bills are up for a vote.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Way to completely miss the point. He's obviously there cuz he's the current US president.

If they wanted to dunk on biden specifically of course, they could've just pointed out how he's has been bypassing congress to send weapons to israel faster, or how he walked back the few sanctions on israeli settlers that were only for optics anyway since it was to pretend as if the state itself wasn't behind it, but this is just the most recent shit the US is doing.

Edit: Looks like Biden does agree with the move against the ICC too, so there's no need to bring up all the other shit he's done specifically.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Under the caption about something the House did...

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you're gonna be such a pedantic shitlib, should I edit the caption to be something from this article Linkerbaan mentioned? Since it's about this incident specifically.

Biden denounces ICC for ‘outrageous’ implication of equivalence between Israel and Hamas

The Biden administration on Monday forcefully denounced efforts by the International Criminal Court to seek arrest warrants for top Israeli officials and Hamas leaders, saying the court’s efforts put the terrorist organization and a top US ally on equivalent footing.

Why go out of your way so much to try defending a fascist? Why do you have an image saved on your device to defend this piece of shit online?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I'd be Ok with changing that caption, don't blame Biden for the stupid shit the House is doing.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Linkerbaan's article isn't on this bill. Articles on this bill say he doesn't support it https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm5512l7yero

Again denouncing and sanctioning have differences. He wags his finger, but he is against punching them down.

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

Being pedantic and defending fascists is also very hot right now among shitlibs apparently

Replace the caption with any of the other shit biden specifically has done that they mentioned if you're this much of a redditor

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I'm all for blaming Biden for things he did.

Sanctioning the ICC is not one of them and was done by his opposition.

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dems and reps are equally part of the ruling capitalist class and are the parties of capital. There is no real "opposition" between the two aside from optics.

And as you'd expect, Biden does of course agree with this move like another user mentioned.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

There absolutely is opposition between the sides.

The right wants to take away womens rights.

The left wants to take away gun rights.

Just as a quick example.

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

? Of course there is opposition between the left and the right. What does that have to do with two right wing genocidal capitalist parties?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are not both right wing.

Examples:

Left:

Student loan forgiveness.

Right:

Blocking student loan forgiveness.

Alternately:

Right:

Capital Punishment

Left:

Blocking Capital Punishment

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is it also "left wing" to bypass congress to send weapons to a genocidal state faster? Or denounce the ICC for actions against that state like in the post you're commenting on?

Studen loan

Education Dept. announces highest federal student loan interest rate in more than a decade

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

And the student loan interest rate has fuck all to do with the plans on the left to forgive student loans, plans which are continually blocked on the right.

You can't take a single issue and go "BoTh sIdEs aRe tHe sAmE" when they clearly are not.

The right wants to invade Mexico for gods sake!

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/11/03/mexico-republicans-us-america-invade-drugs-migration-cartels/

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

75% of Democrats voted against this

100% of Republicans voted for

Dumbfucks: bOTh siDes!

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Biden does not agree with this move. Denouncing is using words and sanctions are actions. Biden has implied that he opposes this bill and his administration have stated that they do not support sanctions. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm5512l7yero

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Shitlibs being pedantic and trying to defend fascists is always hilarious, even if expected

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I don't know what a sHiTlIb is supposed to be here, but I do know it's a term that conservative communities use for anyone who opposes them.

[-] Imnebuddy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"I have never really understood exactly what a 'liberal' is, since I have heard 'liberals' express every conceivable opinion on every conceivable subject. As far as I can tell, you have the extreme right, who are fascist racist capitalist dogs like Ronald Reagan, who come right out and let you know where they're coming from. And on the opposite end, you have the left, who are supposed to be committed to justice, equality, and human rights. And somewhere between those two points is the liberal.

As far as I'm concerned, 'liberal' is the most meaningless word in the dictionary. History has shown me that as long as some white middle-class people can live high on the hog, take vacations to Europe, send their children to private schools, and reap the benefits of their white skin privilege, then they are 'liberal'. But when times get hard and money gets tight, they pull off that liberal mask and you think you're talking to Adolf Hitler. They feel sorry for the so-called underprivileged just as long as they can maintain their own privileges."

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[-] RustyShackleford@literature.cafe 20 points 1 year ago

They probably don’t, but obfuscation gets more clicks when trolling for engagement.

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

"Trolling" is when you put a picture of someone with something that they agree with

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Biden denounces ICC for ‘outrageous’ implication of equivalence between Israel and Hamas

The Biden administration on Monday forcefully denounced efforts by the International Criminal Court to seek arrest warrants for top Israeli officials and Hamas leaders, saying the court’s efforts put the terrorist organization and a top US ally on equivalent footing.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Of course shitlibs are downvoting this lmao

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