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It’s not just boomers, young people are voting far right too
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I'm not surprised by the male/female gap. The past decade, young men have been told that white men are the worst thing to be. The left has not provided any role models for young men.
The right has many.
As a white dude I don't feel like this at all. There are plenty of outspoken progressive men all over popular media, and at every level of society. It only feels this way because progressive messaging asks men to do a lot more soul searching, while conservative messaging is effectively information warfare designed to validate low effort biases and reinforce historical power structures.
Name 3
As a white dude I sometimes think our suicide rate is a good thing. The left will never reach out and the other side are fascists. White men is what people think of in the alt right, they own us no mater how we vote.
Odd take
How else would you describe it? because part of the problem is that it is absolutely true that white men gave us Trump so hatred to us is kind of justified. Hell, i grew up in a hick town and I have seen how hopeless it is for change in those groups its almost inherent. And all though they are way more reasonable then conservatives liberals still want to ignore that women and minorities vote republican too, in fact two of the most talked about GOP candidates in the primary was a woman and the son of an Indian immigrant. which is a problem, but its still nothing compared to the views of most republicans who think school shootings happen because some dude in a dress read a book to some kids. So yeah, suicide is easier.
Don’t you view some trouble in writing out
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Clearly it’s not going to change the outcome, just those who get to play
I am talking about numbers though. If white men did not vote we would never see another GOP president. Becuase yeah women and minorities vote for them too, but its still a vast majority of white men.
You would have non-white conservatives running the GOP
Like those two you just mentioned
Substitute the token minority that they target for someone else if you want but it doesn’t make anything better
We can replace Christian nationalism with Hindu nationalism
Canada’s Conservative Party has promised mass immigration from India/fast tracking any that want to come here because they know they will vote for them. The same would happen with Republicans
Meanwhile our Liberal Party gets booed when they go to mosques because they are pro-gay. We had nationwide protests against gay/trans last summer organized by mosques. Even though the majority participating were your rural white people just because of our demographics
Thats why I said it sometimes felt reasonable. But it also feels like I am making a straw man argument in my mind when I think about it so its hard to talk about. And I just don't see how we can turn that trend around anyway.
And honestly, I think liberal circles have what I see as hidden fascists would love to turn progressivism into a new religion and use it to justify some fucked up shit. But for the sake of solidarity we just have to accept them because at least they might care about the planet and are willing to let gay people marry and don't believe in literal magic.
But social media is filled with so many bots and news sites are written by AI now that I don't even know what's true anymore, so maybe fascism will win no mater what we do and the entire thing is pointless.
Well, usually at least one of the three
Life is always pointless, just have fun with it
If you don’t want to live in a fascist world then yeah there’s suicide but that just makes it harder for others to not live in it. If you really don’t want a fascist world for yourself then do what you can to allow others to experience a non-fascist world for as long as you can
It's like listening to a carnival mirror talk.
Username checks out.
Ok, but try not being a man and see if people think that's any better...
LOL...the right has one. As someone who is relatively a-political, I perceive much more pressure to "be a manly man" (whatever the fuck that is..I guess DRIVE TRUCK, EAT MEAT, FOOT EVERY BALL, LIFT EVERY WEIGHT, JESUS, NO MASK! NO VACCINE! and PUFF OUT CHEST) than I do to "not be a white man" but I guess I don't spend all day in my basement worrying about what people with anime profile pictures are posting on Xitter, nor watch the big, angry puffed chest man underground truth news featuring screamy mc redface rant about it nightly...so I'm not as black pilled as you are.
The right has a fuckload, Jordan Peterson to Tate, Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro and those are probably just the ones I've seen on the right as a lefty.
I could name a single left wing person that's trying to teach men how to be good humans. Because as you said, men also suffer under the patriarchy.
Dude, a wide variety of entertainers and lots of other wildly successful people are loosely affiliated with the left.
They're just too busy doing other stuff instead of screaming into a camera and uploading it on YouTube.
The people you listed aren't even role models. They're talking heads. They're pundits. "The left" depending upon how you define "the left" has those too.
I must admit though that I misread the post I originally replied to. I thought he was talking about how "the right" has many archetypes or blueprints or something for being a man. It doesn't. It has one stereotype and it wants everyone to be that. However, that's a different discussion entirely so my apologies.
That's exactly the problem I'm trying to highlight