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[-] deltreed@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

Nothing to do with rigged elections or propaganda. People are realizing that neither party represents the people. It's a fact.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 5 months ago

Neither party representing the people is very very different then saying both parties are equally damaging.

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's pretty misleading because it depends on what you mean by "the people". And the more complicated, less-emotionally satisfying reality is that both candidates were essentially chosen by different groups of "the people" in contested primary elections in 2016 and 2020. The system is inefficient and in fact designed to uphold the status quo, but still allows people to change it. And trying to change it by voting is a far more effective strategy than not participating and hoping the extremely status-quo biased corporate media somehow gives you attention and takes your side as a result.

[-] manicdave@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago

It's actually quite simple.

67% of the US public want the government to call for a ceasefire.

That's it. Neither party will do it, therefore neither represents the people. Talk all you want about primaries or whatever, but the reality is that neither party represents the people on this.

It's not up for debate.

https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2024/2/27/voters-support-the-us-calling-for-permanent-ceasefire-in-gaza-and-conditioning-military-aid-to-israel#:~:text=Voters%20were%20then%20asked%20the,calling%20for%20a%20permanent%20ceasefire

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

That’s it. Neither party will do it, therefore neither represents the people.

Except that's not actually true. There's one party that's unanimously against a ceasefire, and one party that's split. If more people voted for the party that's partly for a ceasefire, maybe the pro-ceasefire side would get a majority in government. Problem is, of the people that want a ceasefire, very few vote or they protest vote instead of picking people who can actually move the needle.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Would you like to put out the house fire while on fire yourself, or not?

Dainbramage in the wild, folks.

[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 months ago

Or, you can call out both parties for being shit, while still voting for the one that's slightly less shit. Crazy, I know.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 months ago

Sure, but these comments are trying to get people to not vote at all.

[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

If Lemmy comments convince you not to vote, you weren't going to vote to begin with.

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

Slightly???? Come on man.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Both parties are shit. I'm a progressive 🤷

My question still stands, if you'll take the effort to re-read.

E: the downvotes! Ahhhh so many downvotes! Whatever shall I do 😂

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Absolutely, this is a huge opportunity for the Green party to grow

[-] suction@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

This is what the meme is about, people. This is the enemy.

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