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Woman killed by her two XL bully dogs at home in east London
(www.theguardian.com)
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If my dogs ever tried to kill me, I’d just pin them both down. That’s the benefit of not having insanely powerful dogs.
IMO you shouldn’t have a dog that you can’t physically restrain. Any dog can snap and you need to be able to physically stop them if that happens.
Dishonest statement. That's like saying "Any ceiling fan can decapitate you". Technically true, but so extraordinarily unlikely for most breeds that you should be more worried about car crashes if you fear for your life...
Animals are still animals. It isn't dishonest to say that we should respect them and their space through understanding and recognizing their behavior. Don't allow your love for an animal cloud the basic judgment that every animal may have its moment. Don't be afraid, just be aware.
Are there some horribly distempered ceiling fan brands I need to watch out for?
Probably
I have a head canon now about your username origin that you, at least once in your life, had to face a horribly distempered ceiling fan, but just don't remember it because of the capitation.
That's a nice cover story, but you know what you did to me with your head cannon.
I'd be careful with such stuff bought directly via temu or alibaba.
ceiling fan breeds
This one time I was dealing with an exhaust system that split to two separate paths. The blowers were so powerful that if one was on it could move the other backwards which caused the VFD on the other one to fault. It was pretty cool.
You should worry about ones like that.
Ban fully semiautomatic assault fans
But yeah, I deal with Delta/Sanyo Denki fans from time to time and I’m not volunteering to get anywhere near them
"I don't understand. I bought a ceiling fan with razor edge blades to scare off burglars, but it fell down and decapitated grandma"
Any breed can produce a dog that is prone to snap.
Some breeds are much more likely to do so.
Of those, only a few are both prone to snap and large enough to hurt you.
Oh those, pit bills are far and away the most aggressive.
That said, most pitbulls really are fine. For being the most dangerous breed, there are millions of pitbulls, and a few thousand incidents over a few years.
pit bulls were bred so that when they bite you, they don't let go.
No, no they were not. This is such a stupid myth.
You were on a roll until the end...
Why do people go out of their way to defend Pitbulls? This is a breed created by us, to hunt, kill, bite and never let go. They should not be used at pets. There are literarily thousands of good gentle dogs looking for homes, we don't need to defend Pitbulls or keep breeding them.
Clearly, you have never pissed off a chihuahua.
You say that like you've seen a calm Chihuahua.
If a tiny dig nips at you most people laugh it off and you get a break in the skin at most. Happens all the time and no one blinks. If that happens and your dog is 90lbs you can die. Definitely not "extraordinarily unlikely"...just inconsequential for most breeds/sizes.
Any ceiling fan can fall unexpectedly, but only an absurdly sturdy and powerful one will decapitate someone when it comes down
What if you have a very dainty neck?
I don't think any ceiling fan could decapitate me. They are blunt wooden blades and the motor is like 1/3 HP but usually not on full.
So it's like saying, "any fan might hit you in the head, don't put a metal sharp-bladed industrial exhaust fan on your bedroom ceiling."
Hmm, you make a good point.
any animal can snap.
I guess you don't think people should have st. bernards or great danes? I mean, I'm not suggesting people keep wolves or lions as pets, but this bully dog fearmongering is out of control. IMHO, it's not the breed, it's the training and owner.
absolute bullshit, unless they're being bred by chuds for dogfights (despicable) this is not a thing
you're so close to being human.
They are being human, they want to protect their fellow humans from a violent dog breed that is disproportionately responsible for owner and family deaths.
https://www.aspcapro.org/resource/are-breed-specific-laws-effective#:~:text=84%20percent%20were%20maintained%20by,to%20interact%20with%20children%20unsupervised.
By that logic, then ban humans, we kill more humans than any other animal.
It's your shitty logic mate, just pointing it out.
I'm curious why you feel so strongly on this situation. Like genuinely, I want to know your side. Your reasoning.
if Todd really cared about people, he'd reduce harm in a way that would actually help; persecuting a particular breed of dogs because their owners don't spay/neuter and train them is asinine.
OK, but you can't train a dog to not attack a person correct?
uh, I can't parse this word salad, it's double negative pie
???
My dogs have never attacked anyone. I have a staffy/pit mix. live in the US. it's one of the most gentle and kindhearted dogs I've ever had; she's a meat-missile but is more gentle with the kids than my dalmation (passed) or hound dog.
Most dogs don't attack people. The owners should be held accountable for their shitty stewardship of their animal. And anyone who trains animals to fight should be stoned in public, but that's just my opinion.
People, overwhelmingly, kill way more people than pit bulls.
Most dogs don't attack people but what happens when they do? What would happen if your dog attacked you or someone else at random? Would you feel responsible? You can't say that it will never happen because you can't know that and also it's what everybody says until it does.
I'm not sure where you're going with your last statement but it's irrelevant. We aren't talking about people here.
I'd be held accountable for controlling my animals.
What would happen if you attacked someone at random? same logic, you can't say that it will never happen.
Not sure where you're silly logic is going but it's not productive. Talk to your sock puppets I guess.
I can say that it will never happen because I am in control of my own action. That question makes no sense. Anyway, it's clear you are biased so what you say doesn't mean anything until you can reasonably defend your position which you have yet to do.
With how unhinged you are and your apparent love of bulldogs I'm guessing we're going to see a story about you being murdered by one before long.
If your breed requires special training to not maul you or others to death, then that just proves the point of the breed being dangerous and that it should be outlawed. But please, continue to make some more bullshit excuses.
where is this indicated?
My brother/sister in dogs: 30,000ish years ago, some fucking wolf/dingo/mongrel-mutt threw their lot in with ours. We have, mutually, benefitted enormously. I love dogs and trust a lot more of them than I do humans to do the right thing. This isn't developed anecdotally, it's a lifetime of dogs as part of our family, and operating around working dogs in the military. They deserve our respect, and training is one part of any dog's life that humans need to learn. Most training isn't for the dog, it's for the family members.
I'd recommend anyone with any dog go through training, whether a specific program or simply to acclimate the animal to your house (where and when we go outside and who's food is who's etc.,) but also to train them to react and behave in awkward situations. I've had toddlers lurch across the room, grab my dog's faces and and poke at their eyes - and the toddlers got licked.
Special training? YOU SHOULD TRAIN YOUR ANIMALS PERIOD. you wouldn't trust a cat to behave around a toddler, a dog, a parrot (nearly lost a finger meeting a white parrot once!), hells man/ma'am...
apply some sense to it all.
In the fact that this keeps on happening even with experienced owners.
Does Lemmy has a Ban Pitbulls community yet?