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[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 months ago

Because they really just don't want to pay taxes, which are needed to fund universal healthcare.

Also most people who say they're libertarian have no clue what the word means, and are morons.

[-] HANN@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

They don't want to pay taxes because they don't like how government uses taxes and don't trust the government to do a good job. Plus, it's an additional layer of bureaucracy at the top which costs more money and is less efficient.

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you think private healthcare is more efficient than single payer healthcare when EVERY PIECE OF DATA WE HAVE says the opposite then I think that says more about you than it does about the government.

[-] HANN@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

That graph is relating cost of healthcare to quality. Not necessarily comparing cost of countries with universal healthcare to America. Additonally, most of the healthcare spending in America is already by the government and look how that's going. America is also significantly larger than any of those countries listed. Overseeing healthcare for a country so large requires way more overhead.

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

Every graph of healthcare costs vs privatisation with the US in it is necessarily a comparison between private and public healthcare systems since most countries have single payer as most of their healthcare.

The US government healthcare programs are by far the most cost effective offering in the US but it's hampered by regulations such as not having the ability to negotiate prices (until the recent tiny concession on a handful of drugs that has paid off in spades).

Finally, other large countries including India and China may have lower life expectancy, but they're close and rising rapidly compared the stagnant US trends. Of course the bang for the buck they get is at least 5x what the US gets with its ridiculous system

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

No, that's saying too much. They don't want to pay. Full stop. That's it.

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

They don’t want to pay taxes because they don’t like how government uses taxes and don’t trust the government to do a good job.

The opposition to taxes is generally due to a power imbalance resulting in compulsion through the use of force. Taxes are in opposition to negative liberty, which is what libertarianism generally aligns with.

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