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submitted 2 years ago by dessalines@lemmy.ml to c/meta@lemmy.ml

It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it's users will not be allowed to proceed.

We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.

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[-] EdgeOfToday@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Damn, i can't believe how many people immediately jump to the astroturfing accusation instead of discussing the points you raised. I think we can all agree that meta is evil and we shouldn't trust them. The solution should be to build a network that's resilient to bad actors rather than thinking we can just block all the bad actors. As long as there are independent fediverse servers supported by their communities, it's hard to see how meta could totally take over the entire fediverse.

My bigger concern is that meta could gain influence over the activitypub standard, but that's not a battle we can win by simply blocking meta servers.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As long as there are independent fediverse servers supported by their communities, it's hard to see how meta could totally take over the entire fediverse.

It's only hard to imagine for those who haven't learned the history of facebooks nefarious practices, or don't know the many successful cases of EEE and sabotage these companies have carried out.

Luckily, many of us do remember, and are not going to let the cancer grow.

[-] EdgeOfToday@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I'm just saying I've seen a lot of vague comments about how evil meta is (and i don't disagree) but very little discussion about how they would actually destroy the fediverse. At this point, it seems more likely that the fediverse destroys itself when all servers defederate from all other servers out of paranoia.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago
[-] EdgeOfToday@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

If meta gathers a ton of users and then defederates, then wouldn't we just be back to exactly where we are right now?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No, because they want you to get hooked to their content, like a drug. The third step of EEE is where they draw people away from open standards into their walled gardens. This was in the comment I linked you.

If the biggest fediverse communities are all ones on meta, then after they get the fediverse addicted to their communities, they'll draw everyone who was on it out.

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