860
rule
(lemmy.zip)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 06 May 2024
860 points (100.0% liked)
196
17214 readers
1820 users here now
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
Other rules
Behavior rules:
- No bigotry (transphobia, racism, etc…)
- No genocide denial
- No support for authoritarian behaviour (incl. Tankies)
- No namecalling
- Accounts from lemmygrad.ml, threads.net, or hexbear.net are held to higher standards
- Other things seen as cleary bad
Posting rules:
- No AI generated content (DALL-E etc…)
- No advertisements
- No gore / violence
- Mutual aid posts require verification from the mods first
NSFW: NSFW content is permitted but it must be tagged and have content warnings. Anything that doesn't adhere to this will be removed. Content warnings should be added like: [penis], [explicit description of sex]. Non-sexualized breasts of any gender are not considered inappropriate and therefore do not need to be blurred/tagged.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact us on our matrix channel or email.
Other 196's:
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
I always took the weak position in persuasive essay assignments and debate class. I thought it was more of a challenge to argue for the wrong side.
i hate when debate pieces are presented. It's such bullshit. Just let me talk about the two sides and then fuck off. You don't need me to explain to you how to think about something. You have a brain, i put ALL the shit you could ever possibly want right in front of you and now you decide "oh no i need you to tell me how to think, i no rember, it hard" Fuck you.
don't get me wrong, i enjoy researching and writing them. But fucking hell, you don't have to have an opinion about every little fucking thing to exist.
I once failed a test in politics class because after examining both sides I stated this issue does not affect me and I can see merit in both positions, therefore I do not have an opinion on the correct course of action.
Not like the grade mattered in the slightest but that was actual bullshit.
that is some fierce bullshit, especially if you laid out a pretty comprehensive examination of both sides.
I think you're right up to a point. I disagree about teaching people how to think. I credit a particular lesson in early high-school in a media studies class with giving me the framework to critically consider the media I consume and the headlines / viewpoints I read.
Whether debate is the best format for that, I dunno. But I do think teaching kids how to think critically is valuable.
teaching people how to think is a good thing, my complaint there was that i shouldn't need to write a book on politics, to then be required to explain to someone why one side bad and other side good, because i wrote an entire fucking book about it, and you should be able to gather what my opinion is from that, and then form your own as well.
If my entire written text doesn't make it clear what i've laid out, you probably shouldn't be reading im just going to be honest.
I use the inverse of this strategy; whenever I figure out that I'm wrong about something, I immediately admit I was mistaken and change my position. All I have to do is make sure my logic is impeccable and I'll almost always win an argument.
No you won't.
In the situation I'm talking about, you could simply choose to argue for the correct side (as most did). You're usually given a choice between 2 options. Or at least, I was in high school, and to be fair my school sucked. I saw the exercise like a game and I was picking hard difficulty. I didn't actually believe in the position I took. It was just more interesting to argue for.
Oh man it takes me so much longer to figure out when I'm wrong about something. And it's never on the spot - more often while showering or driving.
It's a skill. The better you are at logic and the more you interrogate your philosophical foundations, the more of a leg-up you have. I got lucky by being born as a stereotypically logical autistic person and growing up as an incredibly introspective child. Thinking a lot about why you think what you do, what you might be wrong about, and planning out the kinds of responses that you should have if you get new information really help. It also helps to have a profoundly strong belief that you are able to change your mind easily; simply believing that makes it more likely to be true.
In case your owner ever checks replies: fuck off with your LLMs, we don't want it.
He's actually just harassing that other user based on an interaction they had in another thread.
He's doing the same in my inbox:
Edit: see, I really must have gotten under his skin.
Respond with the date and time you dork ;)
Oh yeah, he's big mad.
Edit: he's still going
Edit: annnnnd he's banned.
I mean at least you admit you're ignoring my message to prove that you're real.
If you're so hot and bothered just report the messages.
Whoosh.
I agree that @null@slr should avoid using LLMs in the future.