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AI’s voracious need for computing power is threatening to overwhelm energy sources, requiring the industry to change its approach to the technology, according to Arm Holdings Plc Chief Executive Officer Rene Haas.

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[-] Rognaut@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

Sounds like some sensationalized bullshit. They don't give a single number or meaningful statement and they are paywalled.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 22 points 7 months ago

I don't disagree that they should back up their claim, but it does intuitively make sense. AI - GPT LLMs in particular - are typically designed to push the limits of what modern hardware can provide - essentially eating whatever power you can throw at it.

Pair this with a huge AI boom and corporate hype cycle, and it wouldn't surprise me if it was consuming an incredible amount of power. It's reminiscent of Bitcoin, from a resource perspective.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago

No, it makes no sense. India has over a billion people. There's no way that amount of computing power could just magically have poofed into existence over the past few years, nor the power plants necessary to run all of that.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 12 points 7 months ago

This is a future prediction, not a current observation.

I'm not saying it's correct as a prediction, but "where are the extra power plants" is not good counter-argument.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago

A couple of months ago the average temperature where I live was well below freezing. Now it's around twenty degrees C.

By this time next year it'll be thousands of degrees!

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago

The current LLM'S kinda suck, but companies have fired huge swaths of their staff and plan in putting LLMs in their place. Either those companies hire back all those workers, or they get the programs to not suck. And making LLMs actually capable of working unsupervised will take more and more energy.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

My take is that LLMs are absolutely incredible... for personal use and hobby projects. I can't think of a single task I would trust an LLM to perform entirely unsupervised in a business context.

Of course, that's just where LLMs are at today, though. They'll improve.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 7 months ago

Sure, but it's simply not physically possible for AI to be consuming that much power. Not enough computers exist, and not enough ability to manufacture new ones fast enough. There hasn't been a giant surge of new power plants built in just the past few years, so if something was suddenly drawing an India's worth of power then somewhere an India's worth of consumers just went dark.

This just isn't plausible.

[-] revv 3 points 7 months ago

If only there had been another widespread, wasteful prior use of expensive and power hungry compute equipment that suddenly became less valuable/effective and could quickly be repurposed to run LLMs...

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure the big AI corps aren't depending on obsolete second-hand half-burned-out Ethereum mining rigs for their AI training.

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