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submitted 6 months ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

The western values Ukraine is defending are becoming more apparent by the day.

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[-] gladflag@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

So if enough people won’t fight the government should shut down and let the invaders take over? Is that your alternative? Civilisations sometimes need to force people to work for a common good. See also vaccines.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The “common good” in bourgeois democracies is the good of the capitalist class at the expense of the working class.

Wikipedia: Bourgeois revolution

Bourgeois revolution is a term used in Marxist theory to refer to a social revolution that aims to destroy a feudal system or its vestiges, establish the rule of the bourgeoisie, and create a bourgeois (capitalist) state. In colonised or subjugated countries, bourgeois revolutions often take the form of a war of national independence. The Dutch, English, American, and French revolutions are considered the archetypal bourgeois revolutions, in that they attempted to clear away the remnants of the medieval feudal system, so as to pave the way for the rise of capitalism. The term is usually used in contrast to "proletarian revolution", and is also sometimes called a "bourgeois-democratic revolution"

BBC: [Princeton] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

I don’t mean to imply that Russia isn’t a bourgeoise democracy—it is as well, but at least it’s not under the boot of the imperial core like Ukraine is. Russia emancipated itself from the US neocolonial shock therapy plundering that began with Yeltsin and ended with Putin.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

How to say you don't understand the concept of democracy.

[-] gladflag@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Lmao. They’ve got an army from another country tearing through their land. I reckon they’ve got larger problems than “this isn’t the best form of democracy in the world”. Again, no solution from you apart from lying on their backs.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago

If people wanted to defend their land they would do it voluntarily. Evidently this is a hard concept for liberals to wrap their heads around.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 6 points 6 months ago

Hey man, there's no point arguing with this guy, he's a Russian shill.

He's all over lemmy spreading this shit all the time

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Ah yes, anybody pointing out the obvious is a Russian shill. Amazing how McCarthyism is still alive and well.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yep, and the instant horde of Hexbear users brigading the comments section in their defense is patently obvious as to what's going on. Astroturfs gonna astroturf.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Ah yes people demonstrating that you're full of shit with sources are the ones astroturfing. Go home little turd.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Orc hordes at Hexbear, their meat waves astroturfing.

[-] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

You got 8 downvotes. Hexbears can't even downvote

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