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An Israeli missile has hit Iran, two US officials have told the BBC's US partner CBS News.

Iranian state media is reporting that flights have been suspended over several cities, according to Associated Press.

Iran has been on high alert after Israel said it would respond to an Iranian attack against it on Saturday night

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[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It think it's debatable about how you define Races, but it's also quite obvious that biological races exist. There are specific differences in the physical biology that separate the races, and common traits among them that identify them as part of the group. Skin color, hair type, bone structure, genetic predisposition to certain diseases, etc. Physical traits are passed from the parents to the children, and when the parents are of different races we get blending of the characteristics and so on. Some Native Americans even have different kinds of teeth than European-Caucasian descended folks do.

Basically it's not something you can choose or change, it's an immutable biological set of characteristics. I don't know what "race" the Jews in Israel are exactly but I suspect it depends a lot on the region their ancestors are from. Many of them might even be the same "race" as Palestinians.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

What's the race here, African or Melanesian? And if it's the same race, why are they so separated geographically?

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I don't know, just some mixture of African and Mongolian would be my guess. It would be more appropriate to ask the people in that picture IMO.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

You'd be 100% wrong there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanesians

Maybe you're wrong on race as well.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

So what? I said I don't know already. Do you want to keep on all day about this?

Go ahead and just believe whatever you want about all this, you will do that regardless of what I say.

Likewise there's nothing you can say that would change the facts of reality that I've already stated.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

You said physical traits determined race. You couldn't determine race from physical traits.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You want to reduce everything into simple concepts just to argue about them. Reality is not that simple, and that's clearly not all that I said about the subject. There's no need to make up your own version of "what I said" when what I actually said is still there in plain text to read in the past comments.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I'm not making anything up:

It think it’s debatable about how you define Races, but it’s also quite obvious that biological races exist. There are specific differences in the physical biology that separate the races, and common traits among them that identify them as part of the group. Skin color, hair type, bone structure, genetic predisposition to certain diseases, etc. Physical traits are passed from the parents to the children, and when the parents are of different races we get blending of the characteristics and so on. Some Native Americans even have different kinds of teeth than European-Caucasian descended folks do.

So do physical traits determine race or not?

[-] stringere@leminal.space 2 points 7 months ago

the facts of reality that I've already stated

But you never stated facts or reality.

You're trying to argue that races exist as something other than social constructs.

Different Races for humans have no genetic or biological basis. Period.

Blonde is not a race. Brown eyed is not a race. Brown skin is not a race. And on and on

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No, and you fundamentally misunderstand biology, genetics, and race.

In essence, per Robert Saplosky, race is a cultural construct, not a genetic or biological one. He has his entire Stanford lecture on human behavior including human genetics on YouTube. He also has several books explaining this. Here's a link to a summary video: https://youtu.be/YVT5iIXdjek?si=jXKvfd3fUEdQcjMx

Just because you can reactively type people into races, doesn't make race a real biological phenomenon. There are plenty of races that look like others, plenty of admixture that ruins your theories. Sickle cell anemia can exist in white people (people who appear to look white) who have black ancestry, but you wouldn't know they have either sickle cell or black ancestry from looking at them. Because race ISNT genetics. There are people within the same family who are different races, one who is lighter and one who is darker, etc. And melanin production is only one small component of the cultural cues we see as someone's race.

Again, it's not biological and no real scientist would think that.

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