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[-] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Making a proprietary operating system is not the right decision. It's unethical to take away people's ability to control their own devices.

[-] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

How does Valve prevent you from controlling your own device? Their version of Linux isn't locked down, you can fully customize it like any Linux afaik.

[-] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Their system (and the Steam client) is proprietary, which means you can't easily see what the software does or change it. If you can't control the software then you don't control the device. People deserve to have the 4 essential freedoms. This is why Windows is bad and it's the same with SteamOS.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

SteamOS is only bad when you expect it to support a variety of hardware. They promised to release it as a standalone and it's still not there yet, too bad.

You are correct about Steam client though. Even if they keep the internals closed, the GUI part alone would be worth forking. I wish a chrome-less version would exist.

[-] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Steam Deck is a computer, so its users deserve to have full control over it just like their PC or smartphone.

You are correct about Steam client though. Even if they keep the internals closed, the GUI part alone would be worth forking. I wish a chrome-less version would exist.

If people can't easily modify it, then its developers have power over users. You have to trust that they will not abuse that power, but they already do - with DRM for example.

[-] noobnarski@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

You can install whatever you want on a Steam Deck afaik, so I dont get what you are trying to say here.

[-] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That SteamOS is unethical, similar to Windows.

[-] noobnarski@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Then you can just install something else on it?

I get that it sucks when a device is locked, because you might need to install a different OS for a multitude of reasons, but as long as you are able to install whatever you want I dont blame the manufacturer.

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[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You have full freedom to install Windows, SteamOS, or even Temple OS on your Steam Deck if you so fancy.

[-] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That does not make SteamOS or Windows an ethical OS.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Can you explain what parts of SteamOS are not controllable in a way that makes it more restricted than Arch, which it is based on?

with DRM for example

[If the account owns the game - allow user to download and run the game] is a DRM sure... But it's kind of fair, no?

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[-] Benaaasaaas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Just because they made steam start on boot. Doesn't mean you can't control your device...

[-] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Steam (and other parts of SteamOS) is non free software, it can do anything on your system and there is no easy way for you to change that or even know what it does. Valve developers put themselves in a position of power over you. They keep secrets from you on your own device. This in itself is unethical, but they also abuse their users with DRM. How can you say that you have control in this case?

[-] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

DRM is what publishers and developers want. If Valve didn't have DRM they wouldn't be anywhere near as big as they are today. The influx of developers happened when Steam released their DRM for the public.

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[-] Benaaasaaas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Steam OS is easy, you can install literally any other distro. With regards to steam itself sadly we don't live in a fairytale land where everything can be FOSS, there aren't enough people motivated to work for free. Steam drm is great it makes publisher executives happy, while being extremely easy to crack.

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[-] Communist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Not other parts of steamos, just steam

[-] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Also the Linux kernel and possibly some drivers according to the FSF: https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html. But I don't know how to verify that last part.

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