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[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 8 points 7 months ago

Having government owned gas I can tell you it's also a monopoly but one enforced even further by law

[-] bitfucker@programming.dev 32 points 7 months ago

And when government fucked up those management, you as a citizen should held your government liable. People shouldn't be afraid of their government, the government should be afraid of their people. Also, the government's main priority is NOT to make a profit but rather serve the people. So there is a (theoretical) obligation for the government to make sure every citizen has access to their service even if at a loss.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

A government monopoly run by the workers, not for profit but to provide a service, is far better than a private monopoly.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago
[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

It works great. It's my favorite shipping option.

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago

Easy to say living in a first world country

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

First world countries tend to not be run for the benefit of all. Not that third world countries are either, mind you, but generally removing the profit motive from basic necessities seems to have very positive results on levels of freedom and social mobility.

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago

Except when corrupt officials just pocket the money and invest nothing into infrastructure

Monopolys aren't good either but living in a third world country I can tell you you can find worse problems with state controlled systems than with private companies that at least have to keep you as a client somehow

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Sounds like a problem with how democratically accountable it is, not with it being state run. Privately, this is how it's supposed to work, haha.

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In my experience government operated facilities are only accountable to the current government so any political wants or ideologies come first.

In a for profit situation without a monopoly the company at least has to try to keep you as a client so there's some give and take.

Taking a monopoly from a company and putting it in the hands of the state is just as bad in my opinion

Some problems don't have a nice for all solution sadly

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Again, sounds like a government structure issue.

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago

I could say the private company gas issue is a company structure issue under the same logic

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

You could not, because the profit motive remains the goal.

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