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[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 67 points 5 months ago

It is a bad idea to trust and rely on Ameeica. Some Afgans learned this lesson in 2021, the same is happening to Ukraine now.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 46 points 5 months ago
[-] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 5 months ago

Gaddafi's is just sad. Such a terrible decision to give up their nuclear deterrence and trust western governments.

Nukes are why the DPRK hasn't been invaded again, and why it hasn't ended up Libya is now.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 34 points 5 months ago

Ukraine gave up their nukes in exchange for peace with Russia, then got invaded by Russia.

[-] Pascal@lemdro.id 26 points 5 months ago

Ukraine was very much at peace with Russia as it always had been before the 2014 coup and the resulting fascist gov that didn't care about such agreements.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 31 points 5 months ago

The fascist government is the one invading Ukraine, my guy.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 25 points 5 months ago
[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago

they weren't ukrainian nukes. they were soviet nukes and ukraine didn't have the money or expertise to take care of them.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago

I wouldn’t put it that way exactly. Ukraine was a constituent part of the USSR, and eastern Ukraine was a major industrial hub. I don’t know the history of it, but perhaps giving the nukes to Russia was part of the deal made in the Post-Soviet transition in Ukraine.

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Russia inherited the Soviet military for the most part. It's unlikely that Ukraine could have used those nukes in the first place.

[-] caveman@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago
[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 months ago

Ukraine rely on a lot more than just the USA. But what else can they do? It's either that or they get annexed.

Their are a small country versus a world power.

[-] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The region doesn't rely on the US, the post-2014 fascist government that doesn't care about the wishes of eastern Ukrainians does.

There wasn't a problem here until the US-backed coup in 2014 and subsequent killing of eastern Ukrainians and Crimeans (if you're wondering why Crimeans overwhelmingly support Russia) by the coup gov for resisting, which also doesn't respect the Minsk agreements to stay neutral.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

fascist

You mean Putin?

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 1 points 5 months ago

hello vatniktard, please follow gordons orders : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQsAvQvAxg8

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