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[-] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 137 points 10 months ago

The free world loses when Russia wins.

It's pretty much an invitation to China to do the same in Taiwan and an invitation for Russia to start more wars in eastern Europe.....

Helping Ukraine costs money. Not helping Ukraine costs even more.

[-] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"free world" has the same weight here as "state's rights"

Downvote and move on, but just like the American genocide in Iraq, you will realize I'm right in ~20 years

[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 33 points 10 months ago

Does the free world also include places America has invaded or bombed?

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

Japan, SK, and Germany seem on board with aid to Ukraine... So yes

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Three formerly fascist states join Ukraine thonk

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

He would rather a current fascist state join them

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[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 33 points 10 months ago

wait, you are not being ironical?

how the fuck do you manage to claim that the west is the free world™ while it is the empire to blame for the largest amount of worldwide suffering in the second half of the twentieth century? It is responsible for countless invasions, sanction regimes and assassinations with the goal of subjugating foreign nations, as well as courting nazis post ww2, like for example people like klaus barbie or wernher von braun, as well as the entire early government of the frg.

your fantasizing about a supposed military threat from the prc to taiwan and from russia to the rest of europe is nothing but pure projection, since you westoids apparently cant imagine someone acting from a different motivation than your own. the prc has time and time again stated that it prefers a peaceful resolution to the taiwan conflict and the province has never officially declared any grade of independence from the mainland, simply being under a different government, the roc.

russia on the other hand has absolutely no reason to start any military conflicts in western europe, something you would know, if you would even try to understand the lead up to the current situation.

your last sentence honestly just sounds like a thinly veiled blood for the blood god.

[-] justgohomealready@sh.itjust.works 47 points 10 months ago

Fuck off with your Putin propaganda.

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

Notice how you didn't address anything in their comment because there's no argument against it.

[-] justgohomealready@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

I didn't addressed anything because the whole comment is a load of bullshit.

[-] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago
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[-] Arelin@lemmy.zip 16 points 10 months ago

Calling things "Russian propaganda" or "Hamas" instead of thinking critically and engaging is an instant win card, didn't you know?

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago

sadly, even if you follow russian propaganda to the word, which i dont btw, you would still more often than than not end up with the truth. maybe the west should try to be less evil.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Found this video about how Americans live. North Korean propaganda says we eat birds. All countries distort the truth, even ‘Merica. I wish more people understood this.

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

the video was actually not made by north korea. it is a parody created by a british comedy director. dprk media typically depicts the us in a fairly accurate manner, or at least more truthfully than how american media portrays korea.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I’m so gullible. I wanted to make coffee out of snow after this video. I thought this was real too, until my wife told me it had to be fake. I wanted it to be real.

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

i feel ya, western propaganda against korea is sadly hard to undo, considering the sheer amount of it. a great way to do it through is to read korean history, with a wonderful beginners read on the topic being this book. after a while you realize that many of the claims against the dprk are often nothing but simple projection, like for example haircut policing being an actual thing in 1980s south korea.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the book recommendation. I’ll save it for my list.

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

FWIW, there are plenty of politicians in Europe who disagree with you, it's not an American take, here's a quote from Lithuania's PM:

"the outcome of this fight in Ukraine is crucial for Europe."

"If Putin is not stopped in Ukraine, then whatever happens next is Europe's problem at large," she said. https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-not-stopped-in-ukraine-all-europe-problem-lithuania-pm-2024-3?op=1

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

lithuania, like all the baltic states, is a us puppet state. also they are so obviously fascist that they even erect monuments to literal nazis.

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

Also if Europe isn't concerned about Russia, why has Europe's defense spending drastically gone up? Clearly there is more going on than your blase attitude is implying.

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

China doesn't pose a threat to Taiwan? JFC China disagrees with you

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

you could try to actually read what china says on the topic, instead of deapthroating american propaganda.

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

apnews.com/article/china-taiwan-elections-military-threats-ea68fa11a0b172c31162c0ff128cabf7

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago

The free world 😂 Okay boomer 🇺🇸 🦅

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Building weapons and empowering authoritarian regimes is an invitation for anyone for more wars.

Helping Ukraine only costs money if you dump money and weapons at it instead of providing actual help.

[-] XiELEd@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

China is already bullying the Philippines too out of our own territorial waters, and they have already caused severe injuries to our countrymen. They literally want an entire sea to themselves and leave us with none. Just look at their nine dash line.

Edit: Here's their nine-dash-line, they even want Malaysia's sea, which is a long way away from chinese mainland, while they want seas close to the land territories of so many SEA nations.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago
[-] XiELEd@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It was recently on local news, but that's not the only conflict that involved water cannons and ships. From the article you can see Vietnam— they once saved filipino fishermen from potentially drowning. (from Philippines) https://www.rappler.com/nation/233079-how-filipino-boat-crew-was-saved-west-philippine-sea/ (from Vietnam) https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/all-gestures-no-words-as-vietnamese-fishermen-saved-22-filipinos-3940276.html. If china continues their actions, there are bound to be casualties. And if that happens, I'm not sure any of us will forgive them.

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

You mean the "free world" that has Assange, Pablo González and lots of other journalists jailed? The same free world that has destroyed every country that didn't fall in line with US interests?

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