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You haven't contacted them yet. Do you need me to email them for you and cc you?
You’re dodging the question in hopes of restarting the whole process. They don’t have a rep in my area. What now?
You're not acting in good faith. You haven't engaged with any union activities and are currently masturbating about it on Lemmy in a leftist meme thread. If anybody is dodging anything it's you.
If you're interested in joining or starting a union I'm very happy to help. But you're not, you're trolling.
The slightest opposition (not living in a major area) is enough to make you throw up your hands and go “this is impossible! It’s unrealistic!”. You can’t even entertain what forming a union is like for 5 seconds, you want to puff out your chest and tell everyone else to do it?
There’s no rep in the area. What happens next?
You haven't even taken the first step by sending an email. And I'm throwing my hands up? The amount of effort you're taking in engaging with me and you could've already started.
Dunkirk, New York. You can email them yourself to see if they have a rep here. I’ll save you some time - they don’t. What now?
What's your industry? Are there any contacts at your local business that could also be interested in forming a union?
I’m a caseworker. There are only 25 employees. I have never spoken to probably 15 of them. Of the 10 I know well, maybe half would actually go through with forming a union. What now?
Now you email the IWW with the info you just gave me and wait for their response.
Do you take this same contentious nature to the rest of your cases?
After their response, what do they say or do to help me form a Union?
Have you gotten a response from them already?
Oh just planning ahead. If they respond (and there’s another user in this very thread saying they never responded to his emails), how exactly will the IWW help me form a Union? What’ll be involved? How can I form a Union when I don’t even have contact info for a lot of the employees here who don’t even know me?
The first step is starting that conversation with the IWW or if you'd like you can reach out to your local AFL/CIO labor board as well
https://wnyalf.org/dunkirk-area-labor-council-afl-cio/union-member-benefits
But as far as what's going to happen next that hinges on you actually engaging with the process and sending an email.
I used the word navigate for a reason. If you need help during the process I'm happy to help.
If you just want to continue a thought experiment for the purpose of proving a point I'm not interested.
Oh. So you don’t have any idea as to how they “build you a union” or even an inkling as to what that means. You can just send emails (and god bless you for that!)
Well, that sure is inspiring. I’ll have to pass that off to all of my clients too. Who knew they didn’t have to be poor! They could just contact the IWW, join or have some unions built for them, and that’s an easy peasy improvement on their quality of life. Makes you wonder why they haven’t all done that already! Guess they just plum never thought about it.
And oh boy, I’ll tell all my coworkers right away about that link you sent me! They’ll be so excited to find out that by switching to AT&T they can save up to $10/month.
Heck, with your knowledge maybe all of social services will start with a call to the IWW. Guess we just never thought of it either! But you know us workin’ class types, we just don’t have all that crawling out of poverty experience that you computer sciency types too.
What straw man are you getting these statements from? I said none of that in anything I've posted here or ever.
What a bitter, disingenuous and sad person you are. I really hope your clients are served better than you're representing here.
I get it man. In your heart you want the best for people. Maybe you think you’re genuinely helping. But all this confident grandstanding about “just join a Union!” When you have no fucking clue, no experience, no knowledge about jack shit about past websites and links is embarrassing. And being embarrassed is okay, because that’s the only way you can develop as a person, but if you want to actually help people - real people in the world, you have to do better. This is just self-serving masturbation for yourself. You can be better than that. It starts by admitting where you don’t know things.
Have you gotten a response from the IWW or AFL/CIO yet? Or are you still building your strawman argument?
Nevermind. I don’t think you actually care at all. You just want the applause. Bring out the empty cloche, get the applause of the pencil necked nerds. You don’t need real results. Why would you? People better than you are doing all of the actual work.
You're right the AFL/CIO or IWW cannot help you, maybe these folks can
https://chqgov.com/mental-hygiene/dunkirk-ccbhc
I hope you can find the help you need and not continue arguing with strangers on the internet for self validation.
I think I understand now why you find your case work so difficult. It's difficult working with the public when you're already so contentious.
I’ve got a good one for you. Why don’t you go down to your nearest children’s oncology ward and d you write a biiiiiig big big big check. Because people will see it, and they’ll think you’re so kind and cool! You might even think of yourself as a good person for a second there. Maybe they’ll throw you a party.
And then… you just let it bounce!! Who gives a shit! We both know you don’t give a fuck. You don’t gotta see any of this stuff through, just the vibes are good enough for ya. Hell, let the doctors or the kids or whoever the fuck do the nitty gritty, you did your part. 🫡
Do you think you’d like that?
Have you reached out to any mental health professionals yet?
I’m sure genuine non-performative empathy does come off as somewhat peculiar to you
So you haven't talked to anyone about your mental health and misplaced anger then.
Any anger I have towards you is very well placed. lol. You’re a louse. I encounter five people like you a month. People who actually help people make jokes about people like you.
Nice to hear. Keep up your good work. Make sure to keep a good eye out for those louses. You're so good at helping people by letting them know how helpless they are and how there's nothing they can do.
No, I just help in meaningful ways instead of sending links and trying to get them to switch to AT&T. It’s very funny that you genuinely cannot picture actually helping people past “sending links”, lmfao.
Like even in the links you don’t understand inside works lmfao.
Happy to see you're laughing
https://psychcentral.com/bipolar/manic-laughter
How quickly you’ve broken down completely onto saying “LMAO, YOURE MENTALLY ILL!” Ad nauseam When pressed on your practices as briefly as I have.
Sensitive.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/practical-mindfulness/202103/3-ways-stop-angry-rants-in-1-minute
The breakdown is complete.
Have you ever actually helped anyone? Or has it always been links?
I don't roleplay as a case worker online.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder
I’ll cut you a buck, I don’t actually live in Dunkirk New York. I am, however, actually a caseworker. And the size of the office is actually accurate to mine. Why do you think I’m so annoyed with dolts like you? I get five cranks a month who call me saying “hey uhm actually I figured out how you can help the homeless… just get em unionized!” And I’ll say “okay, do you know how to do that?” And they bat their eyelashes and say “well, uh, no, but you could probably, like, do it”.
That or they have a cabin that they want to donate to the homeless, but aw shit it turns out it was actually their brothers and they were just hoping it would work out. Or they call and they tell me that a bake sale would raise money and I say “great, I’d be happy to attend” and they say “oh uhm no I don’t actually bake… I was just hoping you guys would do it and I would just have, like, the idea”.
Most of them are well-meaning. But they’re also mostly just kind of sad, single people who want to feel useful but don’t have the capacity or the will to actually help anyone.
I think the community you're actually looking for is here.
https://www.rolechat.org/
A sad life to live in denial that other people are better than you for doing the bare minimum.
You really are obsessed with links.
And you seem to be obsessed with me.
https://www.howtogeek.com/465416/what-is-an-internet-troll-and-how-to-handle-trolls/
I think you’re a very funny, very sad guy. It’s fun to really explore a type of person I see so much but can rarely grill like this. You’re all the same, really. All fluff, no will, no actual want to help people if it doesn’t jerk yourself off.
It’s like throwing peanuts at a monkey. Go ahead! Another link! 🥜 another link! 🥜
https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/delusions-of-grandeur
More links! 🥜 more links! 🥜 it’s all you can do after all - more links! 🥜
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/304/old.jpg
More links please! 🥜
Help! I’m homeless and I need help! Oh god, if only some adult virgin could send me a link!!
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/senator-chris-murphy-loneliness-crisis_n_64406a5de4b0d84038863ae4
Quick, I’m an elderly lady experiencing racism in my apartment complex, god if only a nice young man could send me a link to the ACLU’s website! 🥜
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/how-we-identified-white-supremacists-after-charlottesville/
You know, that minotaur username...not as anonymous as you think.
Hey, aren’t you the guy who sends me links? 🥜