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[-] seriousconsideration@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 months ago

I'll have to remind the French and British settlers that died hundreds of years ago to knock it off the next time I see them.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Stealing is not okay as soon as you give the stolen item to your kid. It should still be returned.

[-] pop@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

China give back Tibet, when?

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah but is the kid to blame?

Answer: no, but the kid should recognize inequity and help correct it anyway.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Blame is irrelevant, the kid needs to give back the stolen items.

[-] _tezz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I can't help but think your framing is a little off. It's more like someone stole the item, then gave it to their kids, who gave it to their kids, who gave it to their kids, who gave it to their kids, who sold it to someone else, who gave it to their kids. And then asking those kids to give up the item (in this case their property and home?).

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

So all you need to do to get away with theft is wait and move it around a bunch after the initial theft? And the rightful owner loses their right to it?

[-] _tezz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Like I feel like your perspective sounds nice and empathetic for about three seconds, then you realize you're advocating another ethnic cleansing in response to ethnic cleansing. Or not, I guess it's possible to think ethnic cleansing is good.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Returning land to the people it was stolen from isn't ethnic cleansing, and it's a typical settler response to accuse their victims of hypothetically doing something the colonizers are already guilty of.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago
[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

"Not sure about the optics of that" lol

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I know I love that clip so much. That "feels like he supports the holocaust" streamlabs donation lives absolutely rent free.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Nazi Germany ruling the world would be a terrible thing and won't cease to be terrible even after 200 years.

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Dig up their bones and send them to the British Museum

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sure, we didn't invade these countries but we maintain the colonial power structures and continue to benefit from colonisation as indigenous people continue to be dispossessed. It's easy and convenient to point your finger at the past and say thats where all the responsibility lies

[-] seriousconsideration@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, depends on your definition of invasion. I have no problem calling British and French colonization of North America "invasion" but my main point is, Israel is actively doing it right now and all of the other countries listed did it hundreds of years ago where we can't reach them.

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