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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by AVincentInSpace@pawb.social to c/196

I don't like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn't going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he's publicly told Israel to "finish up their war". He'll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn't a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it's a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy's, and "sticking it to liberals" and "refusing to support genocide" (that's not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way -- a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump's campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I'll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there's a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 31 points 8 months ago

It's a good time to not be American and not having voting for one of those pricks on your conscience

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

It's a bad time to not be an American because that country holds far too much sway over the rest of the world and you can't even help picking the lesser poison.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago

Jill Stein and Cornel fucking West are also on the ballot.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I've had "leftists" here on lemmy act like Stein and West are legitimate candidates. She hasn't gotten any traction any other time she's run and I'm not sure why this time would be any different.

[-] joenforcer@midwest.social 8 points 8 months ago

The traction she got in 2016 is the reason we're having this conversation.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Oh, I was having the conversation because of her failed run in 2012.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

If you can get on enough ballots to win, you're a legitimate candidate.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I agree, unfortunately .036% isn't a winning percentage.

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