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What is the difference between cellular data being used on my phone and cellular data being used on my notebook? Data is data.

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[-] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 75 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

How do they know if the source of data is hotspot? I'd imagine there is a way to stop your phone grassing on you.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 112 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's different internal network configs (APNs), and hotspot uses a different one than regular mobile data. ( or at least it used to). Those can be configured and metered separately from the carrier's end.

LineageOS, and maybe some other custom ROMs, wouldn't do that and would put the hotspot and mobile data on the same APN to get around that.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I'm still hoping for LineageOS on the Nord N30 but I can't Even find a stock ROM to root it.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Even on my unlocked, non vendor phone it seems to not recognize hotspot data as different for some reason.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

Back when they just began recognizing it, they noted peculiar traffic. Desktop websites, batch downloads normally unavailable to that system. This assumes that you utilized the internal hotspot system and didn’t create a separate one. Now? Not sure whether their system is more robust but it should, theoretically, be possible to obfuscate your traffic using third party hotspot software. No clue where to look for that anymore.

[-] sparky1337@ttrpg.network 6 points 8 months ago

I used to routinely use 100gb of data on my jailbroken sprint iPhone. Did that for almost 3 years. Never heard a peep from them. But this was forever ago.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

If you used the package I think you did, that’s not unusual. Absolutely will not remember the name but there were numerous tweaks that just flipped the hotspot switch but a couple that allowed you to use a hotspot without directly using the inbuilt function. One was free and broadly used.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

That was great, and you didn’t have to pay some extra tethering fee every month either (or something like that, it was so long ago for me).

[-] sandalbucket@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

TTL in the packet header is 29 instead of 30

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago

Well that's an easy fix.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

You have to turn that feature on.

[-] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Could you install a different OS like suggested here https://dubvee.org/comment/1855949 / by Admiral Patrick below?

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, installing a new OS on a phone isn't something you do easily like on a PC.

You have to unlock the bootloader, which requires an unlock code from the manufacturer, then you have to factory reset it, and that's even if your phone/carrier allows it. Many don't (which is why it's so hard for me to replace my phone...grrr).

So yeah, installing a new OS on your phone is typically going to require quite a bit of effort and some level of commitment as well as a device that's bootloader unlockable and supported by an alternate OS (each device and model requires a custom build).

It's....a whole thing. It really shouldn't be, but it is :(

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 points 8 months ago

I haven't done it in a while, but it kinda depends on the phone, some were very easy to flash in the earlier days of Android.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, my old Moto Play G4 was a breeze. Wasn't quite "Press any key to continue" but not much more difficult.

My OnePlus was a little more work, but that was mostly because of the OP website acting up and refusing to generate my bootloader unlock key. Also had to do things differently since it didn't have an SD card to hold my install stuff like the Moto Play did.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 points 8 months ago

I had one where you could literally run an app on the phone, no ADB or anything. Can't remember what phone it was now but it might've actually been a Moto Droid

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

One one hand, that sounds extremely convenient. On the other, I shudder thinking what a malicious app could do with that 😆

Edit: Unless you're talking about doing it through TWRP. I had to flash that over fastboot, but once installed to the recovery partition, I could boot into that and install the rest of Lineage and extra packages straight from the SD card. Updating the system was just downloading the new Lineage .zip to the SD card, booting into TWRP, and clicking install.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 points 8 months ago

Exploits go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT!

No, but I did use TWRP on my Droid 3 I think, and as I recall it was pretty nice.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Maybe, but it's not worth it just for a few days, which is all I'll need it for. I just forked over $15 for another 10 gb.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 15 points 8 months ago

$15 for 10GB?! USA phone bills are extortionate!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it really sucks, but at least there aren't roaming charges anymore.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 8 months ago

negotiate. i called my last carrier from my new carriers retail store front. they practically begged me to stay and said they'd give me everything i asked for.

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