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[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Right on red is dangerous and kills pedestrians and cyclists alike because of ~~morons~~ motorists looking left and turning right.

[-] SolNine@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Right on red is standard driving practice in my entire state unless otherwise posted. No one has a 180 FOV, your head has to swivel, and generally you look in multiple directions multiple times before turning.

Just like people in cars pedestrians and cyclists alike can also be negligent of the law and break right of way.

If we didn't have right on red here, the traffic nightmare would be significantly exacerbated.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Just like people in cars pedestrians and cyclists alike can also be negligent of the law and break right of way.

Pedestrians and cyclists generally aren't driving machines that weigh tons and routinely kill people when they're negligent.

If we didn't have right on red here, the traffic nightmare would be significantly exacerbated

I recommend you do some reading on the subject. The only thing that fixes traffic problems are robust public transport and increased walkability and cycling infrastructure.

Plus, as a motorist, I'd rather lose 3 minutes on my commute if it saves a few pedestrian and cyclist lives on the regular, while making the city a more pleasant and hospitable place to live in.

[-] SolNine@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

I more than welcome you to come to my county, the most densely populated and poorly designed for any kind of walk ability and communicate to our various cities how to improve! Some spots such as St. Pete, Dunedin and a few other downtowns are walkable, but most of the area the residential zones are far from many other businesses and services, as least much to far to walk.

That isn't a joke when I say cities, as literally, you drive 10-15 minutes and you are in a different municipality controlled by a completely different governing body. We have a county wide public transit body, but each city has its own objectives and desires.

I am not oblivious to anything you are stating, but it is much more complex than stating obvious solutions we would all love to have. My work is a 25-30 minute drive, and the only public transit option is a bus, which takes 2 hours, not kidding!

Attempting to simply redesign a disaster that went from orange groves to wild urban sprawl necessitates funding on a variety of levels, state, county and local, and land that isn't readily available here.

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