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[-] realbadat@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Theists have been saying all the fun people are going to hell for... Well, longer than anyone possibly on Lemmy has been alive.

Then add in the idea that the Abrahamic God is perfect is so incredibly foreign and laughable that we have to assume you aren't taking the response seriously.

Now I can't say this for everyone, but probably a good number agree with me - we don't believe in God. And if God did exist, we think God is a total dick. And if we were to have the choice of being around that dick and all the people that like that kind of a total dick, who behave like total dicks themselves because they worship that complete dick of a deity, we want to be in the place that contains the opposite.

TL;Dr, I bet they are being very serious about the question.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you've proven my point as you're contradicting yourself.

And if God did exist, we think God is a total dick

The Abrahamic conception of God is of an infinitely perfect being who's attributes--viz., omnipotence, omniscience, omnibenevolence, omnipresence-- are maximally unified in that one being. So to suppose that this God exists but then deny his omnibenevolence is a logical contradiction of the definition of the Abrahamic God. (This is akin to, for example, supposing that a square-circle exists.) If God does exist, but he isn't omnibenevolent, then this is no longer the Abrahamic God. Which is why I argued that you are not "taking the starting assumption seriously" in my earlier comment.

[-] realbadat@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you're making assumptions about what others would consider perfect or right.

You're going with a very theist-centric view, and not considering others.

You are forcing the idea that an Abrahamic God is perfect. The very history of this world, even the Bible, shows to me that is complete bunk. I am saying, quite sincerely, what you are calling perfection I consider a serial killer. What you are calling perfection I view as a paragon of hatred. A psychotic, self indulgent, narcissistic baby-killer who revels in the suffering of others.

Your premise is faulty - you think God is perfect, others who think like I do view your perfect as a complete piece of shit.

The inability to see beyond your own feelings is the issue here. What you consider perfect is the problem, and why we would prefer Satan and hell.

Edit because I forgot before I sent:

So to suppose that this God exists but then deny his omnibenevolence is a logical contradiction of the definition of the Abrahamic God

Right. We consider the existence of God to be nonsense, because any god that was omnibenevolent wouldn't be such a piece of shit, yet here we are in reality. Your premise is faulty.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

Right. We consider the existence of God to be nonsense, because any god that was omnibenevolent wouldn’t be such a piece of shit, yet here we are in reality. Your premise is faulty.

Yes, you are once again proving my point that you aren't taking the "starting assumption" (i.e. the existence of a perfect God) seriously. It's perfectly fine if your conception of God is of a terrible serial killer, I am not trying to convince you otherwise, but now we aren't talking about the same God.

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