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I wish I could go back to a Lemmy thread showing how Mastodon and other Fediverse instances were blocking Meta ahead of it's integration, where people went "Oh you're just being paranoid, why would they do that?" And when given examples of companies taking open standards and either making themselves the biggest source of users or killing it (Microsoft, Google, Apple) they either went "Well that happened in 2006, it's 2023!"
I know the bootlickers wouldn't actually change their mind, but jesus christ. It's frustrating for groups of advocates to be ignored and proven right each time. Cassandra syndrome is real.
What are these examples and how do they relate to what Meta is doing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2C_extend%2C_and_extinguish?wprov=sfla1
I just feel like this strategy won’t work for activitypub. The whole idea is to make interoperable web platforms. If meta tries to damage that then I don’t see why activitypub developers would cooperate when it’s against the whole purpose of the project.
I don't think you have to know how the poison works to know the snake bite will kill you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook#Criticisms_and_controversies
They will come here (edit: They HAVE come here) with a goal of exploiting and controlling the fediverse. You and I don't have to know how they will do that in order for it to be true. Scrubbing links to a product that competes with Instagram from threads seems like a decent start though.
I mean I am completely unsurprised by their misbehavior, I’m just slightly more optimistic about our ability to resist them.
That said, the one danger I can see is Meta gaining more authority over the activitypub developers. That is probably something worth being vigilant about.
What form would such resistance take if not advocating loudly for defederation?
it will not, but theres a hate-fetish for meta on lemmy and logic has nothing to do with it.
its all 'but they are bad actors' but never 'this is the technical way they will extend the protocol to weaken it' because there isnt anything.
threads is just another instance moderating inbound content. somehow thats going to kill thousands of independent pieces of software.
what exactly is meta doing thats different than every other fedinstance moderating inbound content?
cuz its nothing. nothing beyond that. but hey, get your meta-hate fetish on.