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[-] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Then what you’re really saying is abolish the concept of states and have a single federal state.

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

No, states still would elect a number of representatives based on their population. Just no 2 senators per state.

[-] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Why even have states? Good way to get rid of jerrymandering would be to get rid of imaginary borders. No states, no senate necessary.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Something something…. Redraw state lines every 10 years…

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because state legislatures should continue to exist. If less populated conservative states want to go down a rabbit hole of far right shit then let them. Just don't give them 2 senators per state to gridlock the states that continue to produce and provide for their population.

[-] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Then there is no point in having states.

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That is what is referred to as a false dilemma fallacy. You can have states and state legislatures without the senate.

[-] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First time I’m hearing about that fallacy, but it seems to imply deceptive intent which I have none. You can also have machine screws in your peanut butter sandwich but it doesn’t mean it makes sense.

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

imply deceptive intent

Nope, it's simply an instance of an argument which erroneously limits what options are available.

[-] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Why do you think the states govts should continue to exist if they do not have a direct voice at the Federal level?

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because states would still get a voice at the Federal level with the House, not directly and disproportionately, but rather through their population who are the ones who create value.

[-] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The house is representation of the people. The senate is the voice of the states. E.g. senate ratifies treaties.

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