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alt text: A "xit" from user @ChrpngBrd in which he responds to another "xit" from @BlueBoxDave that says "If Israel falls then America falls. It's that simple." @ChrpngBrd's response is a thumbs up emoji, and two stills from The Simpsons S02E19 "Lisa's Substitute." In which, the first image is Martin Prince putting up a poster saying "A vote for Bart is a vote for Anarchy!" and the second image is Bart Simpson putting up a poster that says "A vote for Bart is a vote for Anarchy!"

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

Two words: Power vacuum.

Once the US is gone, its place in the world will be filled in with China, Russia, India, etc., none of are any better (if not outright worse) than the current status quo.

[-] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago

We all know Canada is to be the next superpower once all hell breaks loose in the US!

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

They will be like "We're sorry!" like constantly...

[-] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

While committing all the war crimes! Finding out what they did in WWII was a bit eye-opening to say the least.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 10 points 8 months ago

power vacuums are a myth used to sell weapons to the pentagon.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

what about eu? Granny Europe still rocks, do not underestimate her.

[-] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

none of are any better (if not outright worse) than the current status quo.

Please tell me what good US does at all in this position?

[-] Sootius@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Count some numbers: Out of the US, Russia, China and India, how many millions of deaths of innocent civilians have each caused or significantly contributed to? I'm fairly sure the US tops that list by some ways.

[-] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

You might want to read some history if you think that? Stalin, etc.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 8 months ago

Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, we know the spiel. Anyway, the US were built on the genocide of indigenous people, have you conveniently forgotten about that? Do they not count because they don't belong to your ethnic group?

[-] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I would argue that Europeans are mostly to blame for the genocide of the indigenous people in the Americas. Or can we not blame Europe because that does not fit your narrative?

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 8 months ago

European people's hands are soiled with blood, but they don't harp as much about manifest destiny. And they haven't fought a civil war over the rights to treat people like poverty.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

yeah, and the ussr is a totally relevant state in our days lol

[-] Hemuphone@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The Russians seem to think that at least

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

greatly depends on what russians you as, even if you mean it ironically. USSR citizens is basically their equivalent of USA's sovereign citizens.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 8 months ago

are we attributing deaths from lack of access to food, medicine, and shelter to the countries in which tehy occurred, or just active murder by the state? also, whatabout occupied territories: do we attribute deaths there to the military occupation?

however you do the math, america is bad, and abolition of the state is ideal.

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