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Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 8 months ago by ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It's absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn't be allowed to continue.

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[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 months ago

Checking the modlog, it looks like a moderator gave me a site ban for 14 days and a ban from the community where I made my comment for 30 days. I find it interesting that it lists my site ban as being from a moderator and not an admin.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

~~They manipulated the modlog on their version to show all actions as coming from mod and not from admin, likely in attempt to hide how much is by admins as opposed to mods.~~

~~Edit: also appears they're manipulating the data itself because actions from lemmy.world's mods and admins are showing up under Nutomic's page so definitely something screwy going on there.~~

ModId field isn't enabled on these instances, it needs to be specifically enabled for these searches to work properly, thanks @Rooki@lemmy.world

[-] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago

The lemmy.sdf.org modlog is the same, so this must be a configuration option.

Not everything is a McCarthyist conspiracy smdh.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

If you scrolled just a little bit in that link you sent you would see that it isn't.

[-] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I’ve gone through the first ten pages and still don’t see one 🤷

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

try ctrl F "admin" and you'll find them, they're near the bottom of the page.

[-] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Sorry can't find it.

BTW "Sunaurus page" looks equally suspicious to Nutomic's. Actually the whole lemm.ee modlog is suspicious, right? You think they are also in on it?

[-] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

How did you create this screenshot? This is not what the modlog at lemmy.sdf.org looks like, it looks like this:

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It's just one of the preconfigured Lemmy theme options.

[-] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

And would you be so kind and tell with me which one, so i can see for myself what you seem to be seeing there?

[-] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I think you are confused, but that obviously doesn't keep you from throwing out wild accusations. How is what you linked Nutomic's page? Because it's lemmy.ml? I really feel for Dessalines and Nutomic with all the shit they have to deal with.

[-] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

Filtering by “ModId” must also be a config option: lemmy.world’s modlog page has a “Filter by mod” drop-box, but lemmy.ml’s and lemmy.sdf.org’s don’t.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I see, it would be nice to ask someone who knows for sure.

@Rooki@lemmy.world is this the case? Is the ModId field a custom config that needs to be enabled and/or is it a feature added specifically to Lemmy.world (If you don't know would you mind asking someone who might know and getting back to me then?)? If that is the case I'll edit my responses with this new information.

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I will check the config and let you know. I dont think we have something custom. I think we have a config enabled

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

They have the option "Hide Mod Names" active. and LW not

[-] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Have you seen any other lemmy instance besides lemmy.world who has this field? I haven't (I checked feddit.uk, feddit.nl, feddit.de, lemm.ee, lemmy.sdf.org, lemmy.ca, lemmy.blahaj.zone). Are they all up to some shady stuff and lemmy.world is the only instance with an honest modlog?

Also i would like to know your thoughts on "Sunaurus' page", you somehow must have missed when i first asked you about it. Is he also manipulating the modlog data itself? What about "Ada's page"? I am sure i would find the same for admins of the other instances, but i feel like it would be on you to show something that supports your claims.

[-] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I checked the 12 most popular instances, and only lemmy.world and lemmynsfw.com seem to have ModId enabled, so perhaps the default config setting is to disable it. This is assuming that it’s a config thing at all, but the only other possibility would be that those two sites share forked code.

cc: @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world

[-] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah. Now i learned more about it than i wanted to. Somehow i still feel dumber after trying to talk to @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world and the troll entourage.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Rooki said that there's an option called "Hide Mod Names", it's likely a default value in the standard Lemmy package, likely the reason why it isn't on more instances. I'll ask the other instance admins I know about it later.