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196 Stands with Palestine, but those of you in the US should still vote in the general election. (self.196)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by moss to c/196

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I've been seeing a lot of anti-voting sentiment going around. Can't believe I have to say this, but you need to vote. Not only is there more to the election than just the president. (State policy, Senate, house), but not voting is not an act of protest. C'mon guys

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[-] Binzy_Boi@supermeter.social 12 points 8 months ago

Vote for an independent candidate. People have this wild notion that voting for a third-party candidate means you're throwing your vote away.

You're not. You're voting for the candidate that best represents your values. People who say otherwise have fallen for the brainrot talking point that's been around since Ross Perot ran in '96.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

^ this guy wants trump to win the election.

[-] Binzy_Boi@supermeter.social 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ah yes, label me as a Trump sympathizer, cause that definitely helps your cause with the average joe.

Edit: This you calling me a Russian agent?

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Helps my cause more than you or anyone else voting 3rd party.

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 11 points 8 months ago

If only Perot had just won those extra 370 electoral college votes. The electoral college map of the 1992 US presidential election.

[-] Binzy_Boi@supermeter.social 2 points 8 months ago

Hm, almost as though Democrats should be pressured by voters to abolish the electoral college... wonder what will change their stance on that.

Maybe... if the Democrats saw their support weakening as a result of their terrible policies... hmmmm.

[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Democrat-leaning states are already working towards that.. The idea is that if they have 270 electoral votes worth of states signed up, they will all agree to change their electoral delegates to follow the national popular vote, effectively ending the electoral college. It's not really a democratic push, but it's an idea that would only be popular with the party that aligns with the national majority. They currently have 205 EVs committed.

[-] Binzy_Boi@supermeter.social 1 points 8 months ago

Huh, thanks for making me aware of this. I'll look into this more. Genuinely appreciate the insight.

[-] boomzilla@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nothing wild about it.

Either

vote for the only worthy contender against Trump

vote for someone who isn't that contender and therefore not for the only worthy contender Biden

If you decide for the latter you'll risk to never really vote again. Read the signs on the wall. It's the "What would I have done if I was a german under Hitler" phase, the USA citizens are in right now. If your prefer the stuff that's going on in Hungary under Orban or worse, go on, vote 3rd party.

Edit:

Germany is in a similar situation in the next federal parliament election although we got more weighty contenders in the parliament than only dems and reps. Our Biden vote equals to 2 parties (labour party and the greens) out of 6. The remaining 4 parties would be a Trump vote (AfD). The outcome of that election would define the politics for unforseeable future and was and is the reason for the mass protests in germany.

Edit 2:

We'd probably have more leeway as the AfD would not straight be elected but mainly the CDU who would choose the chancelor (Either Söder or the german Trump light Friedrich Merz). There would be many more compromises made with AfD (farfarfar right) with a CDU chancelor than under a new labor (SPD) and Greens chancelor. The dream would be if The Greens got a majority. Then Habeck would be chancelor.

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

How is it wise to vote for a candidate that has no discernible chance of winning the election, and is therefore incapable of actually representing my interests in government?