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Found this post super informative as it relates to Mastodon, and thought Lemmy might also benefit from this perspective. I'm not sure I share his optimism, but his points seem sound to dampen some of the alarm bells over Meta joining the Fediverse.

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[-] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Sounds like mastodon doesn’t mind lying with vipers and is trying to justify it

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol are you serious? What, did you want a little bubble on the internet where corporations don't exist? What does "open source" mean to you, open to only the entities you allow in? Like the article says, join an instance that defederates every corporate entity or make your own, but don't blame developers of open source software for keeping it open.

[-] IWriteDaCode@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, I believe the embrace, extend extinguish, model needs to be taken into account.

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

Here is some food for thought, if you or anyone else hasn't seen it yet.

[-] Heastes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Embrace, extend, extinguish is exactly what first came to my mind when I heard about threads planning to federate. I think it is a huge risk.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Everyone has seen it, it isn't food for thought. It's a Microsoft playbook from the 90s/early 00s that wasn't even targeting open source software and wasn't even successful as a means of targeting competitive freeware.

[-] IWriteDaCode@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Dude quit being a dick. You work for Facebook or something? This is a real conversation. This isn't reddit, this isn't facebook, this isn't twitter. We don't just dunk on people here.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How on earth is that "dunking"? Disagreeing with you is being a dick now? Jesus lol

[-] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

"Open source" means anyone can use or reuse the source code, it doesn't require you to show content from entities you don't trust.

The great thing about the fediverse is that we are all free to create or join instances that have federation policies we prefer.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Mastadon devs aren't "in bed with vipers" because they aren't somehow closing their open source software to an entity.

[-] MBM@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

None of this has anything to do with Mastodon's source code though, I don't know why you keep bringing up open source

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Read the first comment in this thread about Mastadon's devs being "in bed with vipers"

[-] MBM@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I assumed that was about mastodon.social not defederating and Eugene Rochko saying not to worry about Threads

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Eugene Rochko even says to join a server that defederates Meta if you want in the article.

[-] StoicLime@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Tell me you've not read the article without telling me you've not read the article.

[-] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If threads becomes larger than the entire fediverse, then it's stupid to not be compatible with them to use their content for the mastodon users. You can also begin to pillage users every time the platform does something stupid with theoretically minimal issues of losing followers.

[-] thablkafrodite@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

it already is no? Threads has 15 mil users in 24 hours.

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