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Mastodon's Founder & CEO Gives His Thoughts on Meta's Threads (blog.joinmastodon.org)

submitted 1 year ago by CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Found this post super informative as it relates to Mastodon, and thought Lemmy might also benefit from this perspective. I'm not sure I share his optimism, but his points seem sound to dampen some of the alarm bells over Meta joining the Fediverse.

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[-] zalack@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

The thing is that this can happen even without active malice.

If the product owners or engineers decide "hey, we want to add this cool feature, but it's not supported by activity pub" the path of least resistance -- bypassing the long process of changing the activity pub spec and getting everyone else on board -- can be super tempting, and come from a place of wanting to make your product better.

Those ostensibly good intentions can lead to E/E/E without actively meaning to.

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

You could argue that this is what happened to Jabber.

Although Facebook Messenger never made a good faith attempt to interoperate with Jabber in the first place.

[-] takeda@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It was Google's GTalk not Facebook's Messenger.

Facebook never needed Jabber for their messenger.

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It was both, but Facebook Messenger was less widely known and was kind of janky. here's a source that explains part of what was going on.

https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/44482/can-you-send-messages-to-facebook-users-from-external-xmpp-servers

[-] takeda@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ah I see, so they never federated with XMPP. This would be comparable if they would take Mastodon server and build Threads from it, but never connected it to the Fediverse.

GTalk used Jabber to help bootstrap their I'm then stole part of Jabber's user base.